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Old 01-09-05, 01:39 PM   #1
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Old 01-09-05, 02:00 PM   #2
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I was wondering when something like this was going to happen...

Personally, I wouldn't get one. There are just times when a skid is appropriate While I can appreciate the application (esp.for front brakes) I like to have and make all the control decisions in my ride, including the feathering of my brakes, if need be.

Kinda neat though.
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Old 01-09-05, 03:41 PM   #3
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nice concept, too bad it looks dorky as all get out. I use one finger braking myself but then my bike is properly tuned. These people should approach walmart or some other bottomfeeder and make a pitch = less endo = less liability since their device couldn't hurt the aesthetics of the crap they sel in those places, at least not much
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"BUDBRAKE" the" ABS modulator" for Bicycle Brakes.Check out our website. <http://www.budbrake.com>
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"BUDBRAKE" the" ABS modulator" for Bicycle Brakes.Check out our website. <http://www.budbrake.com>
Does anyone on the Forum use this?

Does anyone else have comments?

Looks to me like a good extra safety feature.
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Many thanks for not starting a stealth advertising thread along the lines of "I have got ABS brakes for my bike and they are great. All you snobby elitist non ABS-bikers can just deal with it".
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Automatic distribution of braking? Forgive me for being pessemistic. I'm not so sure I see the benefit. This might work on a car. But on a car, the dynamics of braking is much different than on a bike. On a bike, stability and wheel motion are inherently coupled. On a bike, the position and weight distribution of the rider comes into a greater play when braking than in an automobile. On a bike, it is not exactly desirable to equalise (or even normalise for that matter) braking forces fore and aft. In bicycle braking, there's a much greater effect from the second order dynamics so static or predefined distribution of braking forces across the entire braking period is probably not an ideal thing. I know Shimano has been producing inline brake modulators on a per-brake basis. Supposedly they're designed to prevent lockup. I personally never saw the benefit in them and I see less benefit in something that governs and couples both brakes concurrently. Perhaps I'm wrong and there really is some inner intelligence that helps account for all these dynamic factours so if someone could share more details of the design and post some performance data showing why this form of brake modulation is superior or can demonstrate that it works in a variety of dispirate conditions like the kind found during the grand scheme of cycling activities, maybe I'll be persuaded.
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ABS for bicycles? Now I know that bicycles are getting too complicated. Sheesh.
 
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It only seems to put more braking on the rear wheel than the front, which will limit maximum braking. There is no basis for the statement that there will be less rim heating because the rim heating is proportional to the energy dissipated. It mentions less stress on fork or frame, but this is no advantage since braking stress doesnt result in fork or frame failure. It may work but I think it is a solution to something that isn't a problem.
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Sounds more like a proportional brake bias system rather than an ABS system.

Are there wheel sensors?
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I am co-owner of the ABS bicycle brake modulator. Most of the folks who posted comments are experienced cyclists like me. This product in NOT for us--it is for inexperienced cyclists who may find out the hard way how powerful V-brakes/linear pull brakes are when applied vigorously.

It helps if one thinks of a 45 year old person who has not been on a bike for 30 years and is zooming off on her new WalMart bike. If he/she grabs a handfull of brakes levers, chances are that front-wheel lock-up will occur and she/he will either go down hard, or pitch head-first over the bars.

SO--it's not for us--but for the vast majority of mostly new cyclists who have no idea of proper braking technique.
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I am co-owner of the ABS bicycle brake modulator. Most of the folks who posted comments are experienced cyclists like me. This product in NOT for us--it is for inexperienced cyclists who may find out the hard way how powerful V-brakes/linear pull brakes are when applied vigorously.

It helps if one thinks of a 45 year old person who has not been on a bike for 30 years and is zooming off on her new WalMart bike. If he/she grabs a handfull of brakes levers, chances are that front-wheel lock-up will occur and she/he will either go down hard, or pitch head-first over the bars.

SO--it's not for us--but for the vast majority of mostly new cyclists who have no idea of proper braking technique.
So why not market it to Pacific? Anybody that goes to a bike shop is instructed on proper usage of the new more powerful brakes
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I am co-owner of the ABS bicycle brake modulator. Most of the folks who posted comments are experienced cyclists like me. This product in NOT for us--it is for inexperienced cyclists who may find out the hard way how powerful V-brakes/linear pull brakes are when applied vigorously.

It helps if one thinks of a 45 year old person who has not been on a bike for 30 years and is zooming off on her new WalMart bike. If he/she grabs a handfull of brakes levers, chances are that front-wheel lock-up will occur and she/he will either go down hard, or pitch head-first over the bars.

SO--it's not for us--but for the vast majority of mostly new cyclists who have no idea of proper braking technique.
Sounds like you should be putting your system on all xmart bikes...!
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Re: X-Mart bikes. We are trying to convince the Product Managers from all the bike brands to consider the improved safety Of the ABS Brake Modulater. Product Managers are extremely "risk-averse" when it comes to specifying any component that is new to the market. SOmeone has got to be first, then the rest will follow.
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