Just wondering.
Just wondering.
"Think Outside the Cage"
Because it is cool enough in some parts of the world that we don't need AC. In other parts of the world, people are just used to the heat.
what makes you think AC isn't the predominant norm, roody?
just because there's not a movement or snappy slogans, doesn't mean AC hasn't 'caught on'.
it's VC that will never catch on.
"Evidence, anecdote and methodology all support planning for roadway bike traffic."
Because most of us who actually ride real, not theoretical, bicycles every day do it all the time, we just never thought to name it. On Bikeforums, it seems to take on the ominous tones of the Counter-Reformation, or something, but here's a tip-There's a burgeoning legend in my city who rides in traffic on a BMX bike with a KFC bucket on his head-do you really think he's ever heard of John Forrester? Think about it, Hi.
Originally Posted by Christopher Hitchens
Well the predominant norm in my town isn't VC or AC. I was just wondering what happened to AC here on Bikeforums.
"Think Outside the Cage"
Sounds like my best friend Tony, who's quite a clown and a great stunt rider. But he's scared of the cars, so it's kind of confusing to ride with him. He's on the sidewalk and I'm in the street. I don't think either one of us is going to adapt.
"Think Outside the Cage"
+ 1Because most of us who actually ride real, not theoretical, bicycles every day do it all the time, we just never thought to name it. On Bikeforums, it seems to take on the ominous tones of the Counter-Reformation, or something, but here's a tip-There's a burgeoning legend in my city who rides in traffic on a BMX bike with a KFC bucket on his head-do you really think he's ever heard of John Forrester? Think about it, Hi.
Kris said, rides in traffic, not on the sidewalk. What are you reading????
Because it's just happening, no one's 'promoting' it.
AC isn't anything anybody is pushing. It's just what everybody -- even you Roody -- does.
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Why isn't anybody pushing or promoting AC?
How do you tell if another rider is riding AC? Could there be a competency test for AC?
(Please don't flame on the VC test here. There's a couple other threads for that. I'm just wondering if there are observable standards for AC only.)
"Think Outside the Cage"
How can you know that it's happening?
"Think Outside the Cage"
Westinghouse won. AC caught on. Edison was brilliant, but DC was just not as practical.
Yeah, can you stay upright... do you get where you are going? You pass.
I think it's because there is no "Helmet Head" of AC on the forums here.
Gene calls it accurately. everyone is adaptive cycling out there in the real world, roody. even mossy john f., who's claimed he rides on sidewalks to get where he's going.....
"Evidence, anecdote and methodology all support planning for roadway bike traffic."
Not sure if you were watching this forum during the evolution of that Roody, but AC (as defined here) was just something that Chip made up to define how most of us ride anyway. It has also been described by HH as a superset of VC. No one is championing the cause because AC is what we all do (HH and JF included) anyway.
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The fact that AC has not "caught on" in the same way as VC might give us all hope that we can just ride our bikes free from worries of doctrine.
Just my 2d
Ed
Get a bicycle. You will certainly not regret it, if you live.
Quiet, infidel, or I shall start a poll.The fact that AC has not "caught on" in the same way as VC might give us all hope that we can just ride our bikes free from worries of doctrine.
Just my 2d
Ed
Only one - ride your bike in the way that works best for you.
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What you said. Whoever you is...
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I suggest that Adaptive Cycling (Chipcom) = Affordance Cycling (Hiles)
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Edison went to great lengths to prove how unsafe AC was by showing that it could kill this unkillable elephant.
So if I'm not overinterpreting, the consensus is that AC has not caught on as a system of cycling is that it is NOT a system of cycling:
Only one - ride your bike in the way that works best for you. --chipcomSo there are no objective, observable or measurable criteria for determining what AC is. There are no testable hypotheses that would permit empirical or experimental disconfirmation. There is no AC logical system in the sense of coherent premises and conclusions.
No one is championing the cause because AC is what we all do (HH and JF included) anyway. --deputyjones
Gene calls it accurately. everyone is adaptive cycling out there in the real world, roody. even mossy john f., who's claimed he rides on sidewalks to get where he's going..... --Bekologist
Yeah, can you stay upright... do you get where you are going? You pass. --genec
AC isn't anything anybody is pushing. It's just what everybody -- even you Roody -- does. --sbhikes
Because it's just happening, no one's 'promoting' it. --randya
Because most of us who actually ride real, not theoretical, bicycles every day do it all the time, we just never thought to name it. --krispistofferson
Hmmm.... sounds like a religion to me.
"We know that it is true because it is true. We know it is good because everybody does it--even though we can't describe what 'it' is."And this from the same group of people who shrilly proclaim that VC is just a religion.
"Think Outside the Cage"
AC did catch on among certain circles. He is considered the most influential magician of the last 100 years, and has been referenced as widely as the Beetles Sargeant Pepper's album cover, the lyrics of Ozzy Osborne, Tool, David Bowie, and others.
For the mainstream, though, he has been branded a Satanist, and guilty of child sacrifice. Despite the absurdity of these allegations, many just form a knee jerk reaction that may prevent him as a person from ever "catching on" in the mainstream. Meanwhile, his ideas have continued to spread.
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