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    Quote Originally Posted by 4doorhoor View Post
    They are exactly the same. Geo, steel, everything. Same factory, same frame.
    as far as i know the geo charts dont lie and he^ is correct.
    but regardless, ill take the opp. to show off my bike again..

    Quote Originally Posted by elTwitcho View Post
    All I want to know, is if it will do bar spins or not

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    Here's mine. Bought an '09 frameset and went from there. In these pics it's shown with a Ritchey Comp stem, ITM drops, Origin8 Uno saddle, and black Weinmann DP18s. Here's the current build:

    Frameset: KHS Flite 100 matte Gunmetal frameset
    Headset: Cane Creek S2
    Stem: Easton EA30
    Handlebars: FSA Wing Pro

    Crankset: Pake 165x46t 1/8"
    Pedals: All-City (Wellgo) Track
    Toe Clips: Soma Oppy XX
    Bottom Bracket: Shimano UN54
    Chain: SRAM 1/8" & KMC halflink

    Brake Lever: Tektro RL721 crosstop
    Brake Caliper: Tektro R530

    Saddle: Charge Spoon
    Seatpost: Kalloy

    Wheels: Velocity Deep-V Gold non-machined
    Hubs: Formula
    Cog: Surly 18t
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue bull View Post
    NO.

    The Flite has a steeper head tube angle, shorter chain stays(= shorter wheel base), less rake on the fork.....the geo is probably closer to a bianchi pista but really, are entry level track frames are not going to be all that drastically different?

    i love my flite. i bought the frame off of CL very cheap and built it up. stiff, light, responsive geo. Another plus for me is you don't see them everywhere. i'm just about positive that i'm the only person in town riding one.

    i'm glad someone started this thread. i'll have to take some pics tonight.
    Wrong.

    They are exactly the same.

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    The KHS comes with threadless. The complete KiloTT comes with threadless as well, but the unbranded frameset on BikeIsland comes threaded. Weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacksail View Post
    Wrong.

    They are exactly the same.
    yeah, and so is the pista. all 3 bikes have the same geo
    chrome bianchi pista
    syntace force 99 stem
    cane creek s2 headset
    nitto pursuit rb-021
    forte precision seatpost
    wtb silverado saddle
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    they are the same frame. this isn't open for debate.

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    Newer pic:

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    It's my work bike. Since I took this pic I've replaced the back wheel, put on ATACs and replaced the seat with a Charge Spoon (really nice). Gotta get rid of those handlebars next.

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    3x8sol---how is that brake working w/ those gold Deep Vs? Is that one of the colors that's anodized and not powdercoated?
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    Yes, they're anodized. To be honest, I almost never use the brake. It's just for emergencies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steveymcdubs View Post
    they are the same frame. this isn't open for debate.
    Is the Flite drilled for brakes?

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    ITT: Grey overpriced kilo tts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordsOnly View Post
    Is the Flite drilled for brakes?
    Yes, front/rear.

    Quote Originally Posted by time bandit View Post
    ITT: Grey overpriced kilo tts.
    Not really. I bought the KHS frameset brand new for about the same price as the KiloTT frameset on BikeIsland. Fully built the KHS is a bit more expensive, you can always find it on sale, which closes up the gap. Besides, I think it comes with slightly better components right? I didn't buy a complete, so I could be wrong, but that was my impression.
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    ttt

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    [QUOTE=Triple8Sol;9582111]Yes, front/rear.

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    Then They aren't the same frame.

    How ever, I do belive they where made out of the same tubing, assembled in the same factory, just out sourced to different brands like Bianchi USA or Flite..

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    Then They aren't the same frame.

    How ever, I do belive they where made out of the same tubing, assembled in the same factory, just out sourced to different brands like Bianchi USA or Flite..[/QUOTE]

    Oh, is the TT not drilled for any brakes or just a front and no rear? I know the TT Pro comes with a front brake.
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    Has anyone noticed the stock fork/steer tube is a little weak? Also I get a butt-load of toe overlap. Oh well, it's a track frame. Wicked frame though, will post pics ASAP

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveymcdubs View Post
    they are the same frame. this isn't open for debate.
    i love this attitude. if they are the same, please site some examples.

    Geo for the 57cm for the Kilo TT and the KHS flite 100 below:

    from the mercier web site: http://www.cyclesmercier.com/geometry_tt.html

    head tube angle-73.5 seat tube angle-74 bb height- 282mm chain stay length-403mm

    From the KHS web site http://www.khsbicycles.com/Images/Ge...geo-road-a.jpg

    head tube angle-75 seat tube angle-74 bb height-275mm chain stay length- 401mm

    KHS has a steeper head tube angle, a lower BB, shorter chain stay and the front fork rake is different as well.

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    The specs on the cyclesmercier.com site are inaccurate. They're the exact same frames.

    And whoever came up with the idea that the bianchi pistas are the same as the flites and kilos.. that's wrong too. The pistas are entirely different.

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    [QUOTE=redeemed;9766869]The specs on the cyclesmercier.com site are inaccurate. They're the exact same frames.

    Where are you getting this information? I really have no problem believing that they are the same frame but i am not just going to take some random persons statement as fact when the company is supplying completely different information. Please site some examples. just because someone on the internet says so does not make it true. Please provide something to back up your statements.

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    After a 'drome session:

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    ^^They allow brakes at velodromes now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spcialzdspksman View Post
    ^^They allow brakes at velodromes now?
    To be fair, he did say after a velodrome ride, so I assume he put his brake back on and is about to ride home or something.

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    my bike doesn't look like this anymore. but this is what it looked right after i built it. bought the frame from bikebiz.com
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    Hey Flite 100 owners, do any of you know the diameter of the handlebars (stock for 2009)? Thanks.

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