Birdy thread
#51
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Hmmm, possibly the stempost.
Also, I should probably define "heavy backpack". When I have it on (with my laptop and portable drives and all the stuff I need for work) it's typically around 25 lbs, which is about 25% of my body weight, and it is larger than my torso. Guess that might have a significant effect.
Also, I should probably define "heavy backpack". When I have it on (with my laptop and portable drives and all the stuff I need for work) it's typically around 25 lbs, which is about 25% of my body weight, and it is larger than my torso. Guess that might have a significant effect.
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#52
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Hmmm, possibly the stempost.
Also, I should probably define "heavy backpack". When I have it on (with my laptop and portable drives and all the stuff I need for work) it's typically around 25 lbs, which is about 25% of my body weight, and it is larger than my torso. Guess that might have a significant effect.
Also, I should probably define "heavy backpack". When I have it on (with my laptop and portable drives and all the stuff I need for work) it's typically around 25 lbs, which is about 25% of my body weight, and it is larger than my torso. Guess that might have a significant effect.

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I picked up a used 2006 Silver that came with a plain straight extension on the comfort handlepost with an ahead stem, and it handles very much like a full sized bike. The ability to use whatever stem you want allows for a greater degree af cockpit adjustment. I seem to remember seeing the plain extension listed as an accessory but not sure about availability.
Also installed an Avid Magnesium V brake set that I had laying about and there are no clearance problems with either functionality or wheel removal.
Also installed an Avid Magnesium V brake set that I had laying about and there are no clearance problems with either functionality or wheel removal.
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It has crossed my mind to use my Birdy for light trails and off road. Aside from the gearing, could I throw some knobbies on there and use it for that purpose? I've seen off-road tires offered for the Birdy, but I can't seem to find a place that actually sells it as an accessory. Changing to the stiffer elastometer also seems like it would be a good idea as well. Any thoughts?
#58
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From: CA Central Coast
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It has crossed my mind to use my Birdy for light trails and off road. Aside from the gearing, could I throw some knobbies on there and use it for that purpose? I've seen off-road tires offered for the Birdy, but I can't seem to find a place that actually sells it as an accessory. Changing to the stiffer elastometer also seems like it would be a good idea as well. Any thoughts?
Knobbies would be great if you can find them, I only had the stock tires.
The other issue is clearance. I have to carry over big tree roots, loose sand, and big rocks.
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#59
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From: Where the cows go bong!
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Hmmm, possibly the stempost.
Also, I should probably define "heavy backpack". When I have it on (with my laptop and portable drives and all the stuff I need for work) it's typically around 25 lbs, which is about 25% of my body weight, and it is larger than my torso. Guess that might have a significant effect.
Also, I should probably define "heavy backpack". When I have it on (with my laptop and portable drives and all the stuff I need for work) it's typically around 25 lbs, which is about 25% of my body weight, and it is larger than my torso. Guess that might have a significant effect.

https://www.dotbike.com/ProductsP2121.aspx?TRACK%3dDPL
https://www.dotbike.com/ProductsP2122.aspx?TRACK%3dDDI - this is the new version of the one I have
#60
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You seem to have captured a UFO in this picture. I hope you do not have any blank spots in your memory of this ride.
I've done extensive off road riding as well. It shines on pack dirt trails, but not very useful for deep ruts, powdery dust, deep mud, and so forth. Though moderate mud doesn't seem to matter much. It is an outstanding all around bike for international touring.
I can't afford the Intego version, so I rely on 2 chainrings in mountainous areas with steep climbs. Kind of a ghetto solution b/c the chain falls off when the bike is folded. This is a problem b/c one always folds right before eating, and not everywhere in the developing world has a sink with soap available. (Or in NYC for that matter.)
With my chainline, the bike automatically shifts onto the low front ring when progressing to low gears and then back to the high ring when going into high gears. Not for everyone, but cheap!
I've done extensive off road riding as well. It shines on pack dirt trails, but not very useful for deep ruts, powdery dust, deep mud, and so forth. Though moderate mud doesn't seem to matter much. It is an outstanding all around bike for international touring.
I can't afford the Intego version, so I rely on 2 chainrings in mountainous areas with steep climbs. Kind of a ghetto solution b/c the chain falls off when the bike is folded. This is a problem b/c one always folds right before eating, and not everywhere in the developing world has a sink with soap available. (Or in NYC for that matter.)
With my chainline, the bike automatically shifts onto the low front ring when progressing to low gears and then back to the high ring when going into high gears. Not for everyone, but cheap!
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You seem to have captured a UFO in this picture. I hope you do not have any blank spots in your memory of this ride.
I've done extensive off road riding as well. It shines on pack dirt trails, but not very useful for deep ruts, powdery dust, deep mud, and so forth. Though moderate mud doesn't seem to matter much. It is an outstanding all around bike for international touring.
I can't afford the Intego version, so I rely on 2 chainrings in mountainous areas with steep climbs. Kind of a ghetto solution b/c the chain falls off when the bike is folded. This is a problem b/c one always folds right before eating, and not everywhere in the developing world has a sink with soap available. (Or in NYC for that matter.)
With my chainline, the bike automatically shifts onto the low front ring when progressing to low gears and then back to the high ring when going into high gears. Not for everyone, but cheap!
I've done extensive off road riding as well. It shines on pack dirt trails, but not very useful for deep ruts, powdery dust, deep mud, and so forth. Though moderate mud doesn't seem to matter much. It is an outstanding all around bike for international touring.
I can't afford the Intego version, so I rely on 2 chainrings in mountainous areas with steep climbs. Kind of a ghetto solution b/c the chain falls off when the bike is folded. This is a problem b/c one always folds right before eating, and not everywhere in the developing world has a sink with soap available. (Or in NYC for that matter.)
With my chainline, the bike automatically shifts onto the low front ring when progressing to low gears and then back to the high ring when going into high gears. Not for everyone, but cheap!
#62
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I'm just back from a 4-day 240km tour in south-western Victoria, with me on my Birdy and SWMBO on her Reach.
Very impressed. we stayed in accommodation for this tour so didn't carry camping gear. We each had 2 small panniers. My stuff was only a scanty 7kg, including the panniers.
The extra weight of the panniers on the frame made the ride even smoother. It felt like I was riding on soft balloon tires.
The Alivio gear shifting is wearing out far more rapidly than I expected. When new, it worked just fine. Now at 1600km, I have to push the shifter lever way past the click point to get the gear to engage. It works best if I downshift 2 clicks and then upshift 1 - that gives me a guaranteed shift. A single click just results in a grinding noise. If I adjust the shifter to give a guaranteed downshift, then it won't upshift. The shifter seems to have changed its pull ratio.
Very impressed. we stayed in accommodation for this tour so didn't carry camping gear. We each had 2 small panniers. My stuff was only a scanty 7kg, including the panniers.
The extra weight of the panniers on the frame made the ride even smoother. It felt like I was riding on soft balloon tires.
The Alivio gear shifting is wearing out far more rapidly than I expected. When new, it worked just fine. Now at 1600km, I have to push the shifter lever way past the click point to get the gear to engage. It works best if I downshift 2 clicks and then upshift 1 - that gives me a guaranteed shift. A single click just results in a grinding noise. If I adjust the shifter to give a guaranteed downshift, then it won't upshift. The shifter seems to have changed its pull ratio.
#63
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Apparently those aliens investigated folding the bike too; when they unfolded it, the gear cable formed a big loop. They didn't realise the cable has to go back to the front.
Looking at the saddle angle and comparing against your first pic, they also adjusted that...
Looking at the saddle angle and comparing against your first pic, they also adjusted that...
#64
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The Alivio gear shifting is wearing out far more rapidly than I expected. When new, it worked just fine. Now at 1600km, I have to push the shifter lever way past the click point to get the gear to engage. It works best if I downshift 2 clicks and then upshift 1 - that gives me a guaranteed shift. A single click just results in a grinding noise. If I adjust the shifter to give a guaranteed downshift, then it won't upshift. The shifter seems to have changed its pull ratio.

#66
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yeah, sometimes I am not that careful when I put it together after a flight.
I just adjust it as I go.
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#67
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I seem to have infected the local wildlife here...
a workmate whose 700c hybrid bike (see almost last pic in my ride to work photo essay in sig linky) has a busted rear wheel, has borrowed my Yeah for a week. This week he went out to St Kilda Cycles and bought a Birdy! Older frame still, with the 27sp hub geared setup, Birdy Blue. They are on special as the older frame style has been discontinued.
27sp! Jealous!
At least I have the monocoque frame...
a workmate whose 700c hybrid bike (see almost last pic in my ride to work photo essay in sig linky) has a busted rear wheel, has borrowed my Yeah for a week. This week he went out to St Kilda Cycles and bought a Birdy! Older frame still, with the 27sp hub geared setup, Birdy Blue. They are on special as the older frame style has been discontinued.
27sp! Jealous!
At least I have the monocoque frame...
#69
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These are one the only knobbies I could find in 355. Do you think they're worth checking out or will even fit with enough clearance? Should I just stick with Marathons for light trails?
https://www.schwalbe.co.uk/c2-1054-sc...-mad-mike.html
https://www.schwalbe.co.uk/c2-1054-sc...-mad-mike.html
As to the question of which tire to use, that's your call. Knobbies are one of the few things that will significantly slow a bike down. I would only use them if you plan on spending significant time in mud or otherwise really need them.
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#72
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When I'm in town. I'll be here the whole week (leaving Sunday morning) and was planning on doing more riding when I get free time (pretty busy work schedule though).
Trying to decide where to go on Saturday, my free day.
Trying to decide where to go on Saturday, my free day.
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So all you've done is "monkey around?'
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