They actually have them for motorcycles, I have a cousin who had one made for his GoldWing.
They actually have them for motorcycles, I have a cousin who had one made for his GoldWing.
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Hey all that hype I said and you know what? I ride a eco friendly seat!!!! that's right, it's called a "banana Seat"!!!!Originally Posted by Vision-
And here's my eyeballs popping out at you:
Might try Selle Italia's "Max Flite" or "Max Flite Gel Flow". I believe both are synthetic (I did a quick internet search on them and found someone's review claiming that the they called Selle Italia and the company admitted the Max Flite was synthetic leather, much to that person's disapointment.)
I own a Max Flite Gel Flow, and have only put a few miles on it (a daily 28 mile commute for the past week), but I've found it rather enjoyable to ride. It's hard, which I like. Given other saddles I've owned, I'm beginning to think half of comfort is how the seat is positioned and how well the bike fits.
S. O'Hare
P.S. I am also a vegan, and was wondering if you've seen any synthetic shoes for clipless pedals. I know how you feel about purchasing something you think is synthetic only to realize later it's not. Did that with a pair of hiking boots. Did later find a company in Vermont that has synthetic boots, but I don't pay much attention to what's in shoes these days because I spend almost all my time barefoot or in rope sandals (just take the sandals off when it rains, and I don't live where it snows regularly).
P.P.S Don't you love the treatment you get sometimes? A person can be a humanitarian and get praise for it, but as soon as you further extend your compassion to other species you're a monster. I've got to believe that negative responses stem primarily from ignorance, for if a person points out to you that an aspect of your life is unhealthy, cruel, or otherwise negative your immediate reaction is a defensive one. On the other side of the token, you have how vegans (or any other group of people in a similar situation, i.e. environmentalists) share their knowledge. Anytime you start ranting or yelling or condeming someone, you're bound to get a negative reaction. Being a vegan has definitely given me a lot of insight into human psychology, and taught me the value of gentleness. Anyway, I babble.
They're out there. I have a pair of Diadoras and a pair of Scotts that are either synthetic or plant fibers. Bought 'em used (well, NOS), so I can't direct you where to find them. But I see them on eBay from time to time.
And, as we've seen, you can get negative reaction from doing nothing close to "yelling or condemning".Anytime you start ranting or yelling or condeming someone, you're bound to get a negative reaction.
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Unfortunately, very true. (I didn't mean to imply veganheart yelled or condemned in the first post). Some reactions are just totally inexplicable.
My girlfriend is a vegetarian, tho she still eats eggs and dairy so she is not a total vegan. Reading this thread really got her peeved but not for the reasons you might think. What really irks her is that animal rights activists have usurped (hijacked?) what was and still is a very good dietary philosophy. I didn't understand what she meant until she explained it to me...
Vegetarianism is just a diet. And that is all. It happens to be a very sensible diet but still, it is only a diet. It is about what you eat. Animal rights activism also, is a very good and noble cause but it goes far beyond what you eat and includes what you buy and use. And it is possible to be both a vegetarian AND an animal rights activist. What bothers her is when people confuse the two things.
In other words: Vegetarianism (your diet) has nothing to do with what kind of coat you wear or what kind of bicycle saddle you use. You don't eat a bicycle saddle. Your convictions as an animal rights activist however, could very much play a role in what kind of bicycle saddle you use.
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Well this will piss off your girl even more. I never knew that vegetarians weren't right activists. I get this rammed down my throat everytime someone says they're vegetarian.
There, animal free.
... and the saddle shall bridge the oceans of time...
I don't understand. You get what crammed don't your thoat? Please explain.
That's cool!!There, animal free.
I almost revived this thread a few days ago when I did a search for an animal free saddle. Sorry to get this thread back on topic, but has anyone found a saddle that is animal free and has a female anatomic cutout? I currently have a gel saddle that was great for the first few months of riding while I got my butt back in shape, but now it is just too wide and squishy. I want something much smaller but with the cutout, and not leather. I have heard many good things about the Terry Butterfly, but it seems to only come in leather.
"Methinks my own soul is a bright invisible green" H. Thoreau
hey vegan heart, have you checked out the saddleco flow saddle? http://saddleco.com/flowmain.html .made out of textiles and plastic. reviews seem to be pretty good so far, been thinking about trying one myself.
Leave your treadmill power trip behind.
Didn't Veganheart end up with a Brooks???
He said he rides a bike instead of driving a car. The manufacture of a bike is a much less harmful process than the manufacture of a car and all the gas it would have used. It's not hypocritical at all to try and do as little environmental/ethical damage as possible. You save where you can.
I'm in the same saddle dilemma as Veganheart. Nice synthetic saddles are much more expensive than a Brooks. More importantly, I'm not sure how the damage done by the synthetic's manufacture compares to the damage done by the Brooks' manufacture. Synthetics can be made in sweatshops, whereas Brooks are made in England by people who [probably] get paid well. I emailed Brooks to ask if the leather they use is tanned with chromium or vegetable-derivatives. They haven't gotten back to me yet.
I use an Aliente on my commuter, and a Toupe on my weight weenie bike.
Both are a mix of titanium, carbon fibre, plastic, some foam, and some nice synthetic fabric on top. The Aliente sport can usually be picked up fairly inexpensive from lbs's. It comes stock on some giant bikes, so frequently they have some from upgrading someones bike.
Both are very comfortable, i do brevets on both.
Jarery
-If you cant see it from space, its not a real hill
-If two bikes are going in the same direction, ITS A RACE!
Oh man..this thread is from 2004. Some of these saddles may have the same name but they could be made differently...Buyer beware
2004? lol thats what i get for not looking
Jarery
-If you cant see it from space, its not a real hill
-If two bikes are going in the same direction, ITS A RACE!
What a great smackdown!
I get sick of these smug vegan types too...
"I'm taken between Aardvark and Abacus" ~ me, these days.
"I came out for exercise, gentle exercise, and to notice the scenery and to botanise. And no sooner do I get on that accursed machine than off I go hammer and tongs."
~ H.G. Wells, The Wheels of Chance
Hm Vegan:
I suppose you don't shop at Tandy:
I don't mean to be harsh but your order of events is little out of whack. Animals are not skinned alive, at least not intentionally. Anyone that would do that should be skinned alive as well.
Not all ranches are as you describe I think your generalizations are rather over broad. I have family that run/own a ranch and the cattle are free range with watering holes and creeks. The cattle are moved often in order for the grass land to recover. No rancher will knowingly overgraze their own land and the govt. (yuck) tries to monitor their leased land to protect it also.
I do applaud you for the stand you are making and this world could use more caring people like you. I am not speaking sarcasticly at all, we just disagree here.
You sure don't need me to give you permission but I do support your decision to make a stand.
Steven
You guys are preach'n to the choir...VeganHeart hasn't logged on in over a a year:
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...Now pass the pork chops and Brooks Saddles...let's move on !
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Maybe he gotten eaten by a mountain lion with no scruples.
OMG 2 year necrobump.
Old old thread, I think this one's been covered enough.
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