I wish more people were afraid of the many imaginary hazards on the Santa Ana River MUP listed in this thread. Thinning the ninny herd on it would be really nice.
I wish more people were afraid of the many imaginary hazards on the Santa Ana River MUP listed in this thread. Thinning the ninny herd on it would be really nice.
Runnin' With The Pack
I could be wrong, but I think one reason the trail is well-maintained in comparison to other local trails-- SGRT, for example-- is the volume of users.
Don't forget the crazy woman in the hockey helmet!
That which does not kill me has made a massive tactical blunder.
Too often I would hear men boast of the miles covered that day, rarely of what they had seen. Louis L'Amour
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They might have some budget or grants. The section from Katella up to Yorba Regional has nice landscaping. The lower section could have some. Like... trees.
TrailBear
This assault happened pretty close to the stadium area. Not a cyclist, but just the same...
I ride the SART all the time. That area is pretty safe during the day (which is when I ride there). I have no idea what its like after sunset but I never had any problems there aside from egotistical, A88-head elitist cyclists out there that would pass me and smirk at me or do something confrontational. Those riders get a dose of their own medicine with me imagining its the last 10k of the Milan San Remo as I draft behind them, and then surge ahead and do this over and over until I get to my destination at Newport beach... or until they decide they had enough of that nonsense or take a different route.
A lot of A-list (A for A**) cyclists on this route. Thats the only thing you have to watch out for. The kind of people that spend a whole month salary on their $5,000 bikes.
You can say "ass".Originally Posted by Revolution
"Go that way, really fast. If something gets in your way- turn." - Charles DeMar
Yesterday about 2:30 PM I was riding the Santa Anna River path from the ocean to Hwy 91 and back. I made good time to the 91 and turned back to the beach to meet my wife. I was buzzing along at about 14 mph and if you ever have ridden this path you know that about every mile there is an auto overpass over the river and a underpass for bikes below the bridge. As I was rolling down the the grade to the 1st street underpass I noticed three punks standing along the side of the path with an old bike. Not really notable lots of people are always along the trail.
They tossed the junker bike right in front of me as I was rolling pretty good on the downhill and over the bars I went. Then two of the thugs started kicking and punching me while I was down letting the third one who was also showing a knife make off with the bike. The got my new Madone 5.2, my cell phone and bike bag. I got bumps, scrapes, and a jammed wrist, bike helmets take kicks pretty good.
Watch were you ride, I certainly was not in an area not well travelled by cyclist. The thugs just had a spot were they were hidden from view by the overpass and could see up and down the trail, they also had a escape route to get away with the bike. Santa Anna Police were super and tried to find bike using my iPhone and helicopter. They told me that this was the second mugging involving an expensive bike in the last 16 hours. They are not happy with tourist's getting mugged and robbed.
I'm sorry to hear about that. I'm glad to hear you're physically ok but that sounds like it was a traumatic experience.
If I feel sketchy about an area I prefer to go over the underpass and cross the street for that very reason.
Reading these threads makes me think how ironic it is that all the people commenting on how firearms arent needed and firearms are stupid are from california. Then you consider how much crime California has and all the robberies, assaults and homicides here in southern california and yet the sheeple still insist that guns are bad and wont help you any.
I live in Montana part time and California part time. In Montana everyone has guns and CCW's are given freely. There is hardly ANY crime in Montana and I can assure you there is NO WHERE in the state that you would get mugged and assualted and robbed riding your bike.
Then you come down to crime ridden California where law abiding people cant carry guns and criminals know that and gues what.....ASSUALTS AND ROBBERIES everyday !!! go figure.
You California anti-gun people really are something.
If you hate us that much, why don't you move to Montana full time and quit putting all us Mexikin-luvin', non-gun-carryin' fruits&nuts down in this forum?
I don't go to the Montana forum and put them down because their roads are boring, their weather lousy, and a (hopefully) small percentage of their residents are racists.
Just because no one else knows it's a race, that still doesn't mean I'm not winning.
People get robbed and beaten all over the United States. I spent 28 years of my life in Texas where quite a few carry concealed weapons and if you're in a bad part of town at the wrong time, you can still get mugged. I've had friends or friends-of-friends get car jacked in Houston, stabbed in Austin, and beaten in Dallas.
Maybe there's less crime in Montana because relatively speaking, nobody lives there? Could that possibly be why? Nahhh...
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More cows in Montana than people. Last population count was still under one million for the state. Don't take me wrong, it is a beautiful place, but like jmx says, no one lives there.
Sorry for duplicating this suggestion here, but consider our sensible options and real solutions:
1) Report every incident to the police, so they are aware.
2) Avoiding the area when alone, or grouping up with other riders before passing through that zone.
3) Have your cellphones/cameras ready.
You'll never have to wait long at a safe spot on SART before another rider, or group of riders comes along. And instead of all this talk of kicking ass, baseball bats, and using this as an excuse to kick off a SART arms-race, all we really have to do is stick together and have our cellphone-cameras ready. If one of us gets knocked down, the others stop and get photos and be ready to book when they try to get your cameraphone evidence.
Digital photos are more powerful than baseball bats or pepper spray. Once you've got someone's pic or mpeg doing something like this, his game is over; bad guy neutralized. And you don't need a CCW to carry a camera or phone.
What about stenciling something on the bike path?:
"Caution:
Mugging Area Ahead!
Do Not Ride Alone!"
Any other real solutions that don't involve escalation and eventually one of us ending up shot in the head?
Just because no one else knows it's a race, that still doesn't mean I'm not winning.
And how about the next time you ride through there in a large, safe group, taking pictures of the area, and anyone you see in it to post it in here?
We have nearly unlimited bandwidth here and I can't think of a better use of it. If we have a face-database in here, if one of us gets attacked, he need only pick him out of the dbag-dbase and we take that photo to the SAPD when reporting it.
Any other ideas?
Just because no one else knows it's a race, that still doesn't mean I'm not winning.
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