The Ride Video Thread

[Mr. Beanz]

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[cyclocommuter]

It seems trivial to complain about dashware costs but right now I'm just not ready.

All my various hard drives are getting packed with videos so I'm thinking of buying a slew of hard drives. I'm currently recording every ride I can, saving them, partially for "ride recollection", partially so that if something happens I'll have a record of it (traffic close calls etc). I was shocked to discover my mac had only 4 GB hard drive left - that's one hour of raw riding footage. My main Windows laptop is also running out of space. I added a second drive for data.

With regards to time... I spend 5-15? hours per clip editing them. I've already spent about 10-12 hours on the April 18th race and I'm still honing it. I already spent about 4-5 hours editing the April 11th race, and that's far from done. This is with iMovie/mac. On Windows, with Windows Movie Maker, it's a much longer process due to the clunky interface. For example, if I insert a clip into my project, in iMovie it moves music/text as well. I can add/delete stuff whenever I want. In WMM it only inserts the clip so now I have to move every single comment and all the music. So I have to really decide what clips to use in WMM before I add music/text.

This doesn't include the data transfer from camera to computer, nor the mirrored backup onto another data computer. With the first helmet cams I just saved the DV tape. Now, with just electronic bits as "tape", I try and keep at least 3-4 copies of each clip, on different drives.

cdr

Indeed, editing cycling videos is a labor of love... You take 2 to 3 hours worth of footage per ride, go through them, try to condense these into 10 minutes. Including ride telemetry increases editing time further as you also now have the additional chore of syncing telemetry and ride videos. With HD videos you need faster hardware with lots of storage. IMHO, you have to be mildly obsessed to do this thing :-) I have taken another footage of a ride this morning but am still in no mood to edit... maybe in a few days I can post it here.

[Gluteus]

CDR, umd, SteerlerHoo,

Some of the stuff that you guys do is really quite good. I know you do it for fun, but maybe there are some commercial oportunities here?
I'm thinking, that if you're interested in racing, some of the clips, with the comments and data can be quite useful coaching tools.

[umd]

I was going to shoot video of my race today, but the official was not satisfied that it was secure enough. Probably for the best, it would have just shown me getting dropped 15 minutes. I'm going to use an extra strap tomorrow, get a real crit instead of just practice.

[waanfiride]

I decided to try to take a video while riding today... harder than it looks w/o a helmet/bar cam. LOL I think I'm going to try to fashion something to secure my camera to my helmet to make a ghetto-helmet-cam... Or I might just buy a real helmet cam.
Youtube killed the quality a whole bunch. When I exported it from finalcut pro it looks fine...

[The Weak Link]

This starts off a little slow but really picks up by 3:00.

[CyciumX]

Anyone know if I did something wrong (as in being lazy) with some YouTube uploads. I uploaded a 500Meg file in 720p @ 60fps and its been almost half an hour and still no HD version. It does say it is still processing and may improve - be patient?

[KiddSisko]

Anyone know if I did something wrong (as in being lazy) with some YouTube uploads. I uploaded a 500Meg file in 720p @ 60fps and its been almost half an hour and still no HD version. It does say it is still processing and may improve - be patient?

Try uploading again. And the 60fps is a mystery to me as far as YouTube is concerned. Check their FAQ section to see if that's within their range of acceptable standards.

[cyclocommuter]

CyciumX, that's normal... sometimes it takes more than half a day for my 720p videos to get processed and finally show the HD option.

[waanfiride]

from the depths of my basement... I give you... bar mount.




We shall see how this works out tomorrow morning... (beneath the really large nuts is a spring, which I thought would smooth the video out by dampening any bumps... but it really just made the video wobbly as heck) hahah

[umd]

Haha, that's great, love the creativity. If I had that camera I might try strapping it to the head tube or something.

Anyway, I shot a great video from today's crit. I finished in the pack but it should still be cool. I will probably be a few days before I will be able to edit down to a watchable length.

[CyciumX]

If you are gonna make it look that ghetto (as ingenious as it is) then you might as well zip-tie the hell out of it as tight as possible.

[waanfiride]

If you are gonna make it look that ghetto (as ingenious as it is) then you might as well zip-tie the hell out of it as tight as possible.

That was my thinking, then I realized that I only had one zip tie That's where the neon orange fly-line backing comes in.

[carpediemracing]

CDR, umd, SteerlerHoo,

Some of the stuff that you guys do is really quite good. I know you do it for fun, but maybe there are some commercial oportunities here?
I'm thinking, that if you're interested in racing, some of the clips, with the comments and data can be quite useful coaching tools.

I think helmet cam videos have a place in rider/racer education. When you see a really bad move on video it becomes really obvious. Youtube/SlowRoadie had a nice catch where a guy goes from the right curb to the left curb in a sprint. Crazy stupid move.

The thing about commercial opportunities is that once a video gets out there it's out there and out of control. I don't know how distribution works but to me it seems that it'll be hard to protect. If I could do it for a living, I would.

I want to hold riding clinics. I also want to put together something for our local association since I'm supposed to be working on how to improve rider safety in New England racing. I think a combination of "philosophy", text, and video will set everyone's expectations. Physical clinics would train actual riders the moves etc.

cdr

[umd]

Yeah, I got a bunch of interesting stuff on my video. Including some of my own crappy cornering

But at one point there were a few riders off the front, I was at the front of the pack coming around the s/f line and they rang the bell for a prime. A few guys attacked and one came right across my wheel, actually knocked my wheel. I wobbled a bit but saved it. That would have been nasty I'm sure. My elblows actually hit my knees a few times

[Gluteus]

I think helmet cam videos have a place in rider/racer education. When you see a really bad move on video it becomes really obvious. Youtube/SlowRoadie had a nice catch where a guy goes from the right curb to the left curb in a sprint. Crazy stupid move.

The thing about commercial opportunities is that once a video gets out there it's out there and out of control. I don't know how distribution works but to me it seems that it'll be hard to protect. If I could do it for a living, I would.

I want to hold riding clinics. I also want to put together something for our local association since I'm supposed to be working on how to improve rider safety in New England racing. I think a combination of "philosophy", text, and video will set everyone's expectations. Physical clinics would train actual riders the moves etc.

cdr

cdr

Robbie Ventura/Saris have some training videos, not too different than yours, but addressing mostly physical conditioning; as far as I know not tactics/ riding skills etc.
Here is a link:
http://www.saris.com/p-364-realrides...ining-dvd.aspx

[CyciumX]

I think I topped out above 43, but 43 is the only thing verified by my own eyes. I really was hesitant to have a real good go at these turns since I have almost zero experience on hills

[echappist]

I'll start, this is a new video I've been working on, from my group ride last Saturday. A large group with a lot of local racers head out along the scenic side roads of highway 192 and 150, and up the two climbs of Casitas Pass. Some people turn around at the top of second climb, and some continue on around the lake. This video starts with the turn onto highway 192, and ends when I got dropped from the main group on the climb. I just had no energy, an off day.

umd, that doesn't look like a group ride, that looks almost like a race, i mean, you dialed it up to at least 400w on those hills. quite inspiring stuff. out of curiosity, how do you mix in a hammering ride like this into training? or is this a ride during a week you aren't racing?

[waanfiride]

I think I topped out above 43, but 43 is the only thing verified by my own eyes. I really was hesitant to have a real good go at these turns since I have almost zero experience on hills

Awesome video, I loved the flashing "40" on that radar sign.

[nixternal]

hehe, cyciumx - you do like I do when I am braking...have fun and play around with the levers. sometimes i even dance when i am doing it, probably because i know i am going to get a chance to recover a bit

[CyciumX]

Cop came outta nowhere! I might have been a little too focused on the cars in front, but the cop gave a quick look and I quickly pretended I was intending to make a left turn the entire time. He never came for me (Don't even know if I was doing anything completely wrong), but I have...shall we say... bad luck.

[umd]

umd, that doesn't look like a group ride, that looks almost like a race, i mean, you dialed it up to at least 400w on those hills. quite inspiring stuff. out of curiosity, how do you mix in a hammering ride like this into training? or is this a ride during a week you aren't racing?

Most of these types of rides are basically mini-races, at least parts of them. That ride is pretty much a race to the top of the pass (part 1), but then those of us who continue around do it more coperatively.

Our Sunday ride is much more of a "race", this is the final minutes leading up to the sprint at the end. Sorry this is before I started editing the videos. Skip ahead to 3 minutes in, that's where it starts to get more interesting.



As for training, I do these race-like rides often when I am not racing, sometimes with extra added after.

[umd]

Cop came outta nowhere! I might have been a little too focused on the cars in front, but the cop gave a quick look and I quickly pretended I was intending to make a left turn the entire time. He never came for me (Don't even know if I was doing anything completely wrong), but I have...shall we say... bad luck.

Hehe, funny.

[CyciumX]

Man.. looking @ umd's videos... I wish I had friends (That didn't live 430 miles away in Hollywood)... where's my violin.

...and, Razor, I have the cam mounted on the stem dead-center, but the lens is offset on the camera itself. I tried mounting on the bars, but it both used up a hand position and plainly took on too much vibration.

I can't wait to lose 30 more pounds and see what kinda stuff I capture (besides holding a line and not running red lights..opps!)

[nixternal]

I can't wait to lose 30 more pounds and see what kinda stuff I capture (besides holding a line and not running red lights..opps!)

You and I both. Watching that little whippet umd's videos make me sick! ooh you are all fast and look pro. well my biceps are bigger than you legs, so put that in your jersey pocket for later Just kiddin' umd, had to have a little fun. Your videos actually inspire me to get out there with my fast group and continue getting dropped until I can keep up for the 30 mile trip.

Keep the videos coming, I am enjoying them. I am thinking of getting a cam now and doing it like "Hey, look at the big muscle bound cat 5 jerk!" type videos. Maybe give the clydesdales who are just joining the sport some hope