Motobecane Grand Record
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Motobecane Grand Record
This is definitely on the big side for me, and not the kind of bike I typically swoon for. I do think it's awfully sharp for its age and the workmanship is quite good for French bike boom standards...FAR better than the Raleighs I had from this period.
Campagnolo derailleurs
Simplex shift levers
Weinmann brake levers and calipers
Cinelli stem and bars
TA crank (have decal on order)
SR Custom seatpost
Stronglight Competition headset
Obvious replacement wheels - rear is a performance hub and rim, 7sp. Front is wolber laced to Cyclone hub
Campagnolo derailleurs
Simplex shift levers
Weinmann brake levers and calipers
Cinelli stem and bars
TA crank (have decal on order)
SR Custom seatpost
Stronglight Competition headset
Obvious replacement wheels - rear is a performance hub and rim, 7sp. Front is wolber laced to Cyclone hub
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My Moto was one of my first referbs and I really gained an appreciation for the marque while working on it. I am looking forward to seeing more if this machine.
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It's probably a flip to be honest, but I am more impressed by it than I would have expected to be. It has nice clearances, eyelets and it's pretty light.
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Terrible bike. Horrible. Buy it a ticket for Amtrak, and I'll meet the poor ugly thing at the station.
Kidding, of course. I'm a big fan of those Motos. Gotta love the paint job! Give it a ride, you might really like it.
Kidding, of course. I'm a big fan of those Motos. Gotta love the paint job! Give it a ride, you might really like it.
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I like it. I've always liked them. Moto workmanship was better than many other French brands. The top models received a lot of care, and their lower models weren't shabby, either. Also, they chose components based on quality and popularity, not on blind loyalty to French brands!
What size is it!?
What size is it!?
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That is a really nice bike. About when was it made?
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Very, very true. I've never understood the allure of Peugeots, when you could have a Moto instead.
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I measured it at 57cm CTC ST and TT, but it fits a bit smaller. The stem on it is tiny; 75cm. The derailleur is a 76'...and it doesn't seem to match the catalog on the stem/bars. Most of it is original and is spec from the catalog...the wheels are different and the pedals aren't original (obviously). I'm really surprised/disappointed to see the Weinmann brakes. If they can afford Campy NR derailleurs, they can afford some Mafacs!
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Nice. Those old black and red G. Records have such a classic look.
Think the NR derailleurs are original? Bar and stem are definite upgrades.
Think the NR derailleurs are original? Bar and stem are definite upgrades.
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I don't see any reason to think the derailleurs aren't original. They were original spec and it certainly looks like the 76' catalog scan. The76' model is full Reynolds DB...which is consistent with this bike's weight.
The stem/bars are BEAUTIFUL. The Cinelli crest bars are one of my favorite aesthetic parts ever made. I also love the GB bars with the map of England.
The stem/bars are BEAUTIFUL. The Cinelli crest bars are one of my favorite aesthetic parts ever made. I also love the GB bars with the map of England.
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Yep...both derailleurs. It really bugs me they wouldn't use Mafacs, I HATE those Weinmanns. Even looking at them annoys me.
These were also spec'd with Brooks pros, and I happen to have a perfect, age appropriate, Brooks Pro that would be great on this one.
These were also spec'd with Brooks pros, and I happen to have a perfect, age appropriate, Brooks Pro that would be great on this one.
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Ugh! Another HORRIBLE French bike with French threads AND a TA-Pro crank that no doubt requires a demented crank puller.
Why, it's nothing more than reconstituted sludge from a sewage treatment plant.
Better get rid of it right away before you catch something.
- But with all the environmental reg's these days, there is only one place you can get rid of it - (I'll PM you the address.)
Why, it's nothing more than reconstituted sludge from a sewage treatment plant.
Better get rid of it right away before you catch something.
- But with all the environmental reg's these days, there is only one place you can get rid of it - (I'll PM you the address.)
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I'm not worried about catching something, I just don't want it passing on any French VDs to my Italians. You'd THINK they'd know better than to consort with the likes of this, but you never know.
Those Campagnolo derailleurs, DOs and Cinelli stem/bars might be enough to make them overlook the Weinmann brakes in a moment of weakness.
Side note - how hard/expensive are those Normandy hub wheels to source?
Those Campagnolo derailleurs, DOs and Cinelli stem/bars might be enough to make them overlook the Weinmann brakes in a moment of weakness.
Side note - how hard/expensive are those Normandy hub wheels to source?
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Hmmm...interesting question. If it has the bars, wouldn't that make it almost definitely 26.4?
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Nice, very nice! Moto's have a nice little niche following here
Looking at the pics.....dont you hate it when you see the nut on the seat stem clamp looking like pliers were used??
Gorgeous lugs.
Looking at the pics.....dont you hate it when you see the nut on the seat stem clamp looking like pliers were used??
Gorgeous lugs.
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LOL - I was worried I wouldn't be able to turn it!
I was really impressed at how thinned out the lugs were on the top...it's LIGHT YEARS ahead of the Raleigh Intl. I had. My favorite part of the bike is the contrast on the fork crowns and the headbadge. It's definitely a looker.
I was really impressed at how thinned out the lugs were on the top...it's LIGHT YEARS ahead of the Raleigh Intl. I had. My favorite part of the bike is the contrast on the fork crowns and the headbadge. It's definitely a looker.
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That's probably a '76 model. The Grand Jubile and Grand Record were marketed as "fast touring" bikes. But, my 1976 Grand Jubile has no eyelets. Weird.
The Grand Record was spec'd with Philippe bars and Pivo stem, but what's on there could have been switched at the time of purchase.
The Grand Record was spec'd with Philippe bars and Pivo stem, but what's on there could have been switched at the time of purchase.
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That's probably a '76 model. The Grand Jubile and Grand Record were marketed as "fast touring" bikes. But, my 1976 Grand Jubile has no eyelets. Weird.
The Grand Record was spec'd with Philippe bars and Pivo stem, but what's on there could have been switched at the time of purchase.
The Grand Record was spec'd with Philippe bars and Pivo stem, but what's on there could have been switched at the time of purchase.
It's odd...most of the parts look great, but the headset has some pitting on top. Were those chromed poorly or something?
I've been looking at photos of that Velosolex Le Etolie I'd found a while back, and the frame details look VERY similar to this. I'm wondering if Motobecane might have done the Velosolex frames.
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Not talking about the clamp size but the quill size. Was just curious if it was 22.0 or if they sanded down a 22.2 to fit. Or, reamed out the steerer. They did make French Cinelli stems, I have one, but they're fairly scarce.
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I honestly didn't know the quill standards were different...I'm not very experienced with French bikes. I'll pull the stem and look.
Maybe it'll end up with the original bar/stems and these will end up on the bay
Maybe it'll end up with the original bar/stems and these will end up on the bay