Pogliaghi

[Picchio Special]

Lots of stories about him and I have no clue what's true.

I get way too much info from the net, which can be dangerous.

I owned three of these several years ago though.

Two were sold to folks that really, really wanted them.

Both were to die for, but it got totally out of control with bicycles and framesets around here.

...and they went for big $$$$$.

The third is living a comfortable existence in Chicago atm.

My point was that in the 70's - at least by the mid-point - Pogliaghi was not a one-man shop. Neither was Masi, or De Rosa. It was a small operation where the likelihood is that a few different people could have brazed the frame, but with close supervision from Pogliaghi himself. Whether or not he actually held the torch isn't really that relevant - the small-shop model would produce every bit as good bikes, and the whole one-man ideal is largely a new-world projection anyway. In any case, I'm certain that the "PSM" by itself does not mean Sante brazed that particular frame.
Thise multi-color graphics look very early-80's to me, but that's all I'm going by, and I'm no Pogliaghi expert per se. I'm going by the De Rosas that have a smiliar graphics style. In any case, it looks like a very nice frame. I believe Pogliaghi ramped up production a lot in the late-70's - increasing production several fold.

[gomango]

My point was that in the 70's - at least by the mid-point - Pogliaghi was not a one-man shop. Neither was Masi, or De Rosa. It was a small operation where the likelihood is that a few different people could have brazed the frame, but with close supervision from Pogliaghi himself. Whether or not he actually held the torch isn't really that relevant - the small-shop model would produce every bit as good bikes, and the whole one-man ideal is largely a new-world projection anyway. In any case, I'm certain that the "PSM" by itself does not mean Sante brazed that particular frame.
Thise multi-color graphics look very early-80's to me, but that's all I'm going by, and I'm no Pogliaghi expert per se. I'm going by the De Rosas that have a smiliar graphics style. In any case, it looks like a very nice frame. I believe Pogliaghi ramped up production a lot in the late-70's - increasing production several fold.

Yes, I knew this much as well.

Thanks though.

When our buying group was snapping these up four to five years ago, it included an old friend that sold these locally through his shop many years ago.

At the time, he carried a fabulous assortment of Zullos, De Rosas, Pinarellos, and Colnagos.

A few other Italian brands from time to time as well.

His recollection is the same as yours, maybe down to the exact wording.

There seems to be a generational cannon of knowledge regarding many of these brands.

Fortunately, one of these people with this info is still a close friend.

[jazzycise]

Just came back from seeing the bike.
Might be a bit small its 21 inches almost 22.
Could not for the life of me find any serial number, the frame is light and there's a Columbus sticker, however, its the riverniciato accialo speciale replacement decal.
He seems to be negotiable off his 500$, but I'm not sure I should do it.
It did have pogliati stamps where the seat stays connect to the seat tube.

[Tuc]

How did the condition of the bike look, paintwise and chrome? Was it generously equipped with old Campagnolo parts?

[753proguy]

I'm going to check this bike out tomorrow, it's a tad pricey, but I'm hoping to talk him down somewhat (off 500$).
Any advice of what I should look for, besides basic fit and feel? Or information regarding the model?

thanks,

Looks like it is from about 1985 (and I think I see Victory brakes, and Victory or Triomphe cranks). Columbus SL tubing. Fork looks original.

Only three things matter: condition, condition, and condition. Plus condition, I suppose....

Basso-built, I would guess? What do others think?

As others have already said, the potential value is mostly in the frameset. It looks decent from that one picture (printed out in a larger size, but check for frame damage. The front rim looks original, and the rear does not, fwiw.

[jazzycise]

The frame and paint looked pretty perfect all the way around

[jazzycise]

Plus Campognolo all the way around

[Tuc]

Several of us are curious, does it fit you and are you going to make an offer on the bike?

[jazzycise]

No I don't think so, he won't go lower thant 425$ on it

[FastJake]

No I don't think so, he won't go lower thant 425$ on it

Probably a good choice if it doesn't fit you. Unless your plan was to re-sell it. Riding a bike that doesn't fit is no fun.

[jazzycise]

If anyone wants it.
Just let me know, I could pick it up for you, and figure something out?
He was a cool guy