at one time, killing people with your car was illegal

[dynodonn]

Basically, when driving at night, you should be prepared for ninja cyclists. A lot of drivers aren't, of course.

Riding in the middle of the outside lane on a freeway, dark stormy winter night,.......... not so much,......... as this was the case of our last ninja cyclist fatality.

[hagen2456]

Riding in the middle of the outside lane on a freeway, dark stormy winter night,.......... not so much,......... as this was the case of our last ninja cyclist fatality.

Might have been a 400-600 pound elk, in which case both elk and driver would have been f*****. What I'm trying to say is that on a dark stormy winter night you should - as always - drive in such a manner as to be able to do it safely, for yourself as well as others. I'm aware that most of us don't, including myself when I've been driving under such conditions in the past, but that doesn't change the principle of the matter

[dynodonn]

Might have been a 400-600 pound elk, in which case both elk and driver would have been f*****. What I'm trying to say is that on a dark stormy winter night you should - as always - drive in such a manner as to be able to do it safely, for yourself as well as others. I'm aware that most of us don't, including myself when I've been driving under such conditions in the past, but that doesn't change the principle of the matter

Here the elk weigh 1200 to 1500 lbs, and light colored, making for a much bigger visual signature than a cyclist in dark clothing with no lights and with one very small red reflector. According to the media reports, the motorists that consecutively hit the cyclist were traveling well under the posted speed limit.

[WPeabody]

As you know, the speed limit doesn't apply to adverse driving conditions, and the media has been known to be wrong about a number of things.
That said, I've driven at 2 am in fog so bad you couldn't even see the road, going 15-20 in a 35 zone on a winding, two lane country road, narrowly missing hitting a buck, only to have somebody nearly rear-end me, swerve past narrowly missing the buck I narrowly missed, and go roaring off. Sorry, but that person who was probably going at the speed limit was a complete moron.

[dynodonn]

As you know, the speed limit doesn't apply to adverse driving conditions, and the media has been known to be wrong about a number of things......

Whether if the media get's it right or wrong, the bottom line is that none of the motorists that hit the cyclist, in the incident that I described, were ticketed or charged with any criminal offenses.