Jamis Sonik Track Bike what do you guys think?

[Velocity61]

IIRC, Sonik's used to come with nice components including an American Classic wheelset and Omnium's. That bike's been damaged by some moron. They stripped all the good components and replaced them with garbage wheels, cranks, saddle, and stem to try swindle some schmuck stupid enough to pay retail for a damaged frame. Those components aren't worth the landfill space they'd end up filling. In short, don't be that schmuck.

[GMJ]

Lowball the **** out of it. I like those frames and I didn't think the damage was too ​bad.

[chas58]

+1

You are right, he has stripped the good components off of it (including the $1000 wheelset and $500 cranks). In mint condition, that bike would be worth about $500 with those components.

IIRC, Sonik's used to come with nice components including an American Classic wheelset and Omnium's. That bike's been damaged by some moron. They stripped all the good components and replaced them with garbage wheels, cranks, saddle, and stem to try swindle some schmuck stupid enough to pay retail for a damaged frame. Those components aren't worth the landfill space they'd end up filling. In short, don't be that schmuck.

[Soil_Sampler]

IIRC, Sonik's used to come with nice components including an American Classic wheelset and Omnium's.
They stripped all the good components and replaced them with garbage wheels, cranks, saddle, and stem.

+1
You are right, he has stripped the good components off of it (including the $1000 wheelset and $500 cranks).
In mint condition, that bike would be worth about $500 with those components.

Or, he just bought just a frameset.

[Velocity61]

Or, he just bought just a frameset.

What are the chances of somebody buying a Sonik frameset and putting components that ****ty on it? That's like putting Campy Record cranks, Phil's, Thomson post and stem, and an Arione on a conversion. It could happen, but I wouldn't buy anything from somebody that stupid.

[Scrodzilla]

You've really never seen a nice frame built up with crappy components? For all anyone knows, the guy could've thrown a bunch of junk on it just to sell it.

It doesn't really matter because that frame is ready for the scrapyard at this point.

[Velocity61]

You've really never seen a nice frame built up with crappy components? For all anyone knows, the guy could've thrown a bunch of junk on it just to sell it.

It doesn't really matter because that frame is ready for the scrapyard at this point.

I don't really see fairly high end aluminum track frames with components that bad. I don't know if I ever have. Then, I'm new to this forum, maybe I'll be surprised. That's like taking a Cervelo P5 and putting a Tiagra group on it.

[Soil_Sampler]

What are the chances of somebody buying a Sonik frameset and putting components that ****ty on it?

It could happen.

You assumed that it was stripped, I gave you another possible scenario.

Chances are...?