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Old 09-04-12 | 08:18 PM
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Whatever, man. Good night to you.
Somehow, I don't think that he really wanted to help the OP. I believe that he just wanted the chance to prove to the whole interwebs that he is right and you are wrong. There are people like that and you really just have to let that bait go. Notice that he never once addressed the OP's original post...only that you are making a wrong claim.

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Old 09-04-12 | 08:20 PM
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The physics that make low drag wheels faster are the same at 4 mph as at 40. In fact, the slower rider saves more time than the faster one.
that statement is not accurate

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Old 09-04-12 | 08:41 PM
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What MegaTom is saying is that unless you spend large amounts of time in the 25-35mph range, aero wheels will not make you any faster. Pros spend the majority of their time in those ranges (and higher), hence their use of aero wheels.
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See where I mention "blazing through 40k time trials"? That's the difference between those pros and you: they're doing exactly that, you are not.
you assume you know me and how fast im going



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You're right. I'm sure a pair of 808s will take a whole 2 seconds off his next "RIDING AROUND" (OP's words, not mine) results.

So congratulations, winner, you've just sold a completely useless set of Zipps to someone that absolutely no need for them. Your shop manager will be proud.
sooooo if i say im riding is it cool? is it a certain amount of miles i need to ride for it to be considered more than just riding around? your confusing me more than anyone
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Old 09-04-12 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bakeram4
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you assume you know me and how fast im going





sooooo if i say im riding is it cool? is it a certain amount of miles i need to ride for it to be considered more than just riding around? your confusing me more than anyone
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Old 09-04-12 | 08:48 PM
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Let it go, man, let it go! Here have a few of these
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Old 09-04-12 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by tagaproject6
Let it go, man, let it go! Here have a few of these
thanks for the cold one, but i'm not really frustrated. Mostly I just wanted to use an emoticon. I never think of using them. It was pretty exciting.
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I'll see your , and raise you:


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Here you go. Go really fast.

https://www.psimet.com/

https://www.novemberbicycles.com

https://boydcycling.com/
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Originally Posted by bakeram4
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you assume you know me and how fast im going





sooooo if i say im riding is it cool? is it a certain amount of miles i need to ride for it to be considered more than just riding around? your confusing me more than anyone
Pay no mind. There's two conversations going on. One includes you, the other does not. If I wasn't speaking directly to you, it was not intended for you. Good luck with your endeavor.
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Old 09-04-12 | 09:10 PM
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Let it go, man, let it go! Here have a few of these

let what go? he's the one who needs to stop judging people on the internet were they do that at
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Old 09-04-12 | 10:55 PM
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im browsing around for wheels and the zipp 808, mavic cxr80 peeked some interest but as i read up on them online they said tt wheels. sooo can i just ride them or is their better wheels for just riding around

weight:180
rides: flat with inclines
road cond: not sure? like how is the pavement?
frame: franco kanan
i just wanna go really fast
i think any wheel or 400 would be better than my wheels
OP, you have 50 posts on the forums. Every thread you've made are questions from a new rider and exceptionally vague. That vagueness and your insistence on moving faster can be frustrating, to say the least. The posters here are cyclists, not psychics.

Take it from another newbie: be more specific, target small goals that help you build up large goals, be more specific about what you want and expect out of cycling, and don't be surprised when other people get frustrated at the haziness of your requests. It's like asking for a sandwich at a restaurant without telling us what you want in it, how you want it prepared, how much money you have, or when you'd like to eat it.

Oh, and learn to use the Search engine. "Wheels" turn up many, many posts, so read them.

For example, you weigh 180. A healthy 180 or an unhealthy 180? Either way, work on the engine.

You ride on flats with inclines, but we don't know where, nor do we know the angle of the inclines or how long they last. Everywhere is flat with inclines.

Pavement is variable. Is it well-paved, poorly-paved? Gravel? Hardpack? We don't know.

You mentioned a Franco Kanan. Google turns up: https://www.roadbikeaction.com/bike-t...nco-Kanan.html

According to the review, it would seem that the bike itself sacrifices a bit of speed for a smoother ride. I leave it up to you to decide what that means.

If you want go 'really fast,' then I would strongly suggest working on your engine rather than the bike. Using an onboard computer to track your progress would be a better idea than buying new wheels. We don't know how fast you go because you can't keep track: there's a world of difference between "my average speed is around 15 mph over a 50 mile course, and I can't seem to break past that plateau" and "I just wanna go really fast." Either way, the answer is "ride moar, newb."

We don't know what "my wheels" are. We need specifics, but Tom is correct: any wheel that can get you from point A to point B is a 'good' wheel. I use a set of Jalco DRX 4000 wheels on my bike; I don't know how good they are, but I've logged a thousand miles on them. Better wheels will not make me faster, but a better engine will.
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Old 09-05-12 | 12:30 AM
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get your post count up bro, you and megatom are some useless people
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Here you go. Go really fast.
https://www.psimet.com/
Probably have trouble getting a response after this thread.
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Old 09-05-12 | 04:19 AM
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A bit off-topic, but I've been wondering about getting a new set of aluminum wheels myself, especially since I can't find any numbers around my current Jalco DRX 4000 wheelset. Of the three, the Boyd's seem to be the most bang for my newbie buck, as it goes, but I have to ask, are high-end road wheels usually double-walled with reinforced nipples and aero spokes? I've seen something like that on Domane bicycles, and was wondering if such things were truly necessary.
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Old 09-05-12 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by tagaproject6
Notice that he never once addressed the OP's original post...only that you are making a wrong claim.
Also notice there is more than one person reading this thread and the discussion isn't limited to the OP. Are you saying that it is a good thing to let incorrect and misleading information stand unchallenged?
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Old 09-05-12 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Elduderino2412
that statement is not accurate
Actually there are two claims: 1) that the governing physics doesn't depend on speed between 4 and 40 mph, and 2) a slower rider saves more time from faster equipment than a faster one. I'm not sure which one you think is wrong, but both are correct. That can be seen for both through an examination of the governing equation in the the cited paper, the second can also been seen by running a few cases at analyticcycling.com.

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The physics that make low drag wheels faster are the same at 4 mph as at 40. In fact, the slower rider saves more time than the faster one.
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Old 09-05-12 | 09:16 AM
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Awesome!.....I'd try to talk the OP out of 808s 3 times, after that I'd sell him the set complete with the lightest tires and tubes available, and both a clincher and tubular repair kit,...Running a bike shop would be so much easier (though less fun) sans roadies...
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Old 09-05-12 | 09:23 AM
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Awesome!.....I'd try to talk the OP out of 808s 3 times, after that I'd sell him the set complete with the lightest tires and tubes available, and both a clincher and tubular repair kit,...Running a bike shop would be so much easier (though less fun) sans roadies...
Unless the OP is a sock puppet/troll from the racing forum and was wasting everybody's time from the beginning.
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Unless the OP is a sock puppet/troll from the racing forum and was wasting everybody's time from the beginning.
In which case he's won the 808s used on Ebay, and is awaiting for the tyres to arrive from Europe...AND
he won't be coming into the shop until he really jacks something up,...either way...
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In which case he's won the 808s used on Ebay, and is awaiting for the tyres to arrive from Europe...AND
he won't be coming into the shop until he really jacks something up,...either way...
Must be nice to have all that money to throw around on uninformed purchases.
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Must be nice to have all that money to throw around on uninformed purchases.
What do you think our economy is based on?
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Old 09-05-12 | 05:11 PM
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What do you think our economy is based on?
Credit, and lots of it.
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Old 09-05-12 | 08:27 PM
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lmao no i didnt buy the 808s or the mavics cxr80 but yall gave me brands and not specific wheels so im still not to helpfull but i almost did buy some=p
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Do some research. You appear to have internet access.
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The more I read this thread, the more I think the OP needs the 808s because having them would be AWESOME! Awesomeness is completely unrelated to functionality.
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