Utter tool kills cyclist in Richmond Virginia
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Utter tool kills cyclist in Richmond Virginia
All the hallmarks. Hit and run. Driver has had 19 moving violations in last ten years. "Didn't know he hit anything." This one is bad, close your eyes:
https://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/n...al-ar-2105066/
Memorial ride in RVA, Sunday, 9pm.
https://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/n...al-ar-2105066/
Memorial ride in RVA, Sunday, 9pm.
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How many times are we going to hear "I didn't know I hit anyone or anything?" That is NOT a legitimate answer/excuse for running.
All the hallmarks. Hit and run. Driver has had 19 moving violations in last ten years. "Didn't know he hit anything." This one is bad, close your eyes:
https://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/n...al-ar-2105066/
Memorial ride in RVA, Sunday, 9pm.
https://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/n...al-ar-2105066/
Memorial ride in RVA, Sunday, 9pm.
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I am trying to figure out how these folks don't know they hit something... what is it about them as drivers or the vehicles they drive that gives them the impression that everything is OK?
I mean if something happens to your vehicle that leaves "samples on the steering wheel" isn't pretty obvious that this is not a normal thing?
On Wednesday, investigators executed a search warrant on the SUV and collected evidence including red stains, pieces of fabric, samples from the steering wheel and samples of an unknown substance, according to an inventory of the search filed in Richmond Circuit Court.
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I can see someone hitting something in the dark and not knowing what they hit but not knowing you hit something the size of a person with a bike is plain stupid. You damn well know you hit something that big and whether you know what it was or not you should stop and look.
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It's an EXCUSE and a LIE. It's also the admission that they are clearly incapable of safely operating a vehicle on the public streets and should never be allowed to operate one again.
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i can see someone hitting something in the dark and not knowing what they hit but not knowing you hit something the size of a person with a bike is plain stupid. You damn well know you hit something that big and whether you know what it was or not you should stop and look.
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While that sounds like a lot, it's only two a year. While certainly on the high side, it wouldn't surprise me if over 10% of the drivers out there had similar records.
Given that he can probably take defensive driving once a year and get rid of one of those offences, this probably isn't even enough to trigger additional fines or loss of drivers licenses (I don't know Virginia laws regarding this, however -- this is just a guess.)
Hopefully they'll nail him for the hit and run now, however.
Given that he can probably take defensive driving once a year and get rid of one of those offences, this probably isn't even enough to trigger additional fines or loss of drivers licenses (I don't know Virginia laws regarding this, however -- this is just a guess.)
Hopefully they'll nail him for the hit and run now, however.
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While that sounds like a lot, it's only two a year. While certainly on the high side, it wouldn't surprise me if over 10% of the drivers out there had similar records.
Given that he can probably take defensive driving once a year and get rid of one of those offences, this probably isn't even enough to trigger additional fines or loss of drivers licenses (I don't know Virginia laws regarding this, however -- this is just a guess.)
Hopefully they'll nail him for the hit and run now, however.
Given that he can probably take defensive driving once a year and get rid of one of those offences, this probably isn't even enough to trigger additional fines or loss of drivers licenses (I don't know Virginia laws regarding this, however -- this is just a guess.)
Hopefully they'll nail him for the hit and run now, however.
My uncle has a neighbor the lives across the alley from him that has in the neighborhood of 15 DUIs including a manslaughter on record as a result of one of them.............and still has a license. We're supposed to have a 3 strikes and your out policy here but it seems like there are holes in it.
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This stuff gets so much media attention that as time goes on more and more people are going to use it as an excuse, unless we can stop it.
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The suspect, an advertising salesman at the Richmond Times-Dispatch
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And the victim's mother is an editor for a competing paper. https://www.henricocitizen.com/index....ring_lanie0803 which promises to monitor the legal proceedings. More than a bit awkward.
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Yeah, they definitely seemed to be reporting the driver's side of the story in a very friendly way. And he got the company photo rather than the usual mugshot.
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Really. You'll note they chose not to report on his driving violations (matter of public record). This story was originally reported about eight o'clock last night; well before the morning edition was put to bed. Plenty of time to do some cursory research.
The "suspect" is the son of a local monied defence/traffic attorney.
I think the the RVA police deserve kudos here, they're working this one hard, I think. Up to the prosecutor's office; they recently took down a motorist who killed a ped. Let's hope.
If you want to see hope for the human race, read the comments. There are some of the usual stupid ones, but they're being assaulted with a near-fervor I've never seen before. I wouldn't ordinarily suggest reading comments on a story like this one, but...
Really. You'll note they chose not to report on his driving violations (matter of public record). This story was originally reported about eight o'clock last night; well before the morning edition was put to bed. Plenty of time to do some cursory research.
The "suspect" is the son of a local monied defence/traffic attorney.
I think the the RVA police deserve kudos here, they're working this one hard, I think. Up to the prosecutor's office; they recently took down a motorist who killed a ped. Let's hope.
If you want to see hope for the human race, read the comments. There are some of the usual stupid ones, but they're being assaulted with a near-fervor I've never seen before. I wouldn't ordinarily suggest reading comments on a story like this one, but...
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I don't know how she drove directly into a huge orange barrel or how she kept driving with the thing making the noises it was making, but she never stopped. Bet it ripped some stuff up under her car.
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At least the guy came forward. Real shame it had to happen, and most certainly questionable details given the size and damage a human would do to your car..aside from the noise and movement. I suspect it will come out the guy was intox or tired at the time. It would have been that much more a tragedy if no one were found and charged.
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I was at the corner store last week and watched a young woman hit a large, orange traffic barrel with her car. It became wedged under her front bumper and was making a hell of a noise. She slowed down after hitting it, hesitated, then kept driving. I could hear her dragging the barrel quite a ways. I went down the street on my bike, and found the barrel 1/3 mi down the road, in the middle of the street. Guess it finally popped out by itself.
I don't know how she drove directly into a huge orange barrel or how she kept driving with the thing making the noises it was making, but she never stopped. Bet it ripped some stuff up under her car.
I don't know how she drove directly into a huge orange barrel or how she kept driving with the thing making the noises it was making, but she never stopped. Bet it ripped some stuff up under her car.
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It's definitely a lie, unless they're drugged senseless. We once hit a deer, at slow speed. Noone driving a car would be able to ignore that impact... (unless, as said etc.)
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Sure hit someone and kill them. Go home and get sobber, then report the accident. Its the old Teddy Kennedy ploy.
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Yeah, after sobering up and lawyering up.
"When asked whether Webb had been drinking, [Webb's attorney] Marcus said: "He wasn't running from anything. He didn't leave the scene because he was worried about being charged with a crime. He did not know he hit this woman.""
Yeah, but. . . W-A-S H-E D-R-I-N-K-I-N-G???
"When asked whether Webb had been drinking, [Webb's attorney] Marcus said: "He wasn't running from anything. He didn't leave the scene because he was worried about being charged with a crime. He did not know he hit this woman.""
Yeah, but. . . W-A-S H-E D-R-I-N-K-I-N-G???
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Story appears to be changing. Now he says he thought he hit a deer.
https://wtvr.com/2012/08/03/lanie-kru...d-hit-and-run/
@#$%ing tool. RTD finally tells on their employee:
https://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/2...ti-ar-2107317/
https://wtvr.com/2012/08/03/lanie-kru...d-hit-and-run/
@#$%ing tool. RTD finally tells on their employee:
https://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/2...ti-ar-2107317/
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Locally, your neighbor would not even be out on the street, much less have a license. Sounds like the state your uncle lives in has a serious judicial enforcement issue.
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That said, they don't have to convince you -- they only have to convince the DA that the DA would have a hard time proving "beyond a reasonable doubt" that they did know they hit something, and maybe convince a jury that there's reasonable doubt. The #1 way of proving that they knew they hit something is that the confess to it -- without that, it becomes quite difficult.
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It's fairly obviously a lie unless they're massively drunk.
That said, they don't have to convince you -- they only have to convince the DA that the DA would have a hard time proving "beyond a reasonable doubt" that they did know they hit something, and maybe convince a jury that there's reasonable doubt. The #1 way of proving that they knew they hit something is that the confess to it -- without that, it becomes quite difficult.
That said, they don't have to convince you -- they only have to convince the DA that the DA would have a hard time proving "beyond a reasonable doubt" that they did know they hit something, and maybe convince a jury that there's reasonable doubt. The #1 way of proving that they knew they hit something is that the confess to it -- without that, it becomes quite difficult.