Ti trackframe: HOW do I put the brakes on?
02-20-04, 01:00 PM
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Ti trackframe: HOW do I put the brakes on?
This frame has no hole to put on the brakes, fender etc. Would I drill a hole in the seatstay "crossbar" or braze on cantilevers ( i think thats what they are called 
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02-20-04, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Veganheart
Ti trackframe: HOW do I put the brakes on?
02-20-04, 01:31 PM
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02-20-04, 01:44 PM
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I know this frame would be way too small for me if I used it with the convential dropbars, but the frames of mountain bikes are usually way smaller so I thought I could get the benefits of lightness etc from a roadie with the combfort of a hybrid. I have neck problems so I cant be bent over on dropbars and I dont want to ride a recumbent. Thats my reasoning as crazy as it is 
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FIXER that link has a bike with no rear brakes either! I am wondering HOW to put rear brakes on.. Braze or drill (see my first post)
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02-20-04, 01:52 PM
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Rear brakes don't do anything anyway. Just go with a road fork and a front caliper.
02-20-04, 01:54 PM
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Are you going to set it us as a track bike (in terms of dirvetrain, i.e., will it be a fixed gear)?
02-20-04, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by veganheart
FIXER that link has a bike with no rear brakes either! I am wondering HOW to put rear brakes on.. Braze or drill (see my first post)
Thanks
Thanks
02-20-04, 01:59 PM
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I am going to build it as a fully functional hybrid with 21 plus gears. I know i will have to make lots of modifications but the price is good.
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Just a word of warning- If you're looking for 'the comfort of a hybrid' a track frame might not be your best bet. Traditional track geometry is really steep and you're not going to have clearance for fenders, and depending on the frame, very wide tires.
I'm not sure what the rear spacing for a 7 speed bike is, but most track frames are 120mm, so you might have a problem fitting a cassette, not to mention that there probably isn't a hanger for a rear derailleur.
If your heart is set on it, give it a try, but I think you're going to have a lot more problems trying to make this into a comfort bike than its worth, regardless of what kind of 'deal' you get on the frame.
I'm not sure what the rear spacing for a 7 speed bike is, but most track frames are 120mm, so you might have a problem fitting a cassette, not to mention that there probably isn't a hanger for a rear derailleur.
If your heart is set on it, give it a try, but I think you're going to have a lot more problems trying to make this into a comfort bike than its worth, regardless of what kind of 'deal' you get on the frame.
02-20-04, 03:54 PM
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You might be able to put some kind of disc on the rear. I think I heard mention of a bolt on adapter.
Most of your braking is in the front, but the rear does some braking too.
Most of your braking is in the front, but the rear does some braking too.
02-20-04, 03:55 PM
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Just curious. Do you already own this frame? Why not sell it and get a road frame?
02-21-04, 01:15 AM
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You'll also need to check the distance from that crossbar to the rim, just to be sure that the brakepads can be adjusted to hit the rim where they're supposed to. (Long-reach calipers are available, but choices are limited.)
If you go with cantilever bosses, brazing doesn't work on Ti; they would need to be tig welded. A good framebuilder who has experience in working with titanium would be equiped and experienced in doing this. As titanium has special needs in the welding process, only deal with someone who is experienced with it.
Other than that, just be sure to look into the pros and cons (both money and practical considerations) of doing this conversion.
Either way, best of luck, and remember to post pictures!
If you go with cantilever bosses, brazing doesn't work on Ti; they would need to be tig welded. A good framebuilder who has experience in working with titanium would be equiped and experienced in doing this. As titanium has special needs in the welding process, only deal with someone who is experienced with it.
Other than that, just be sure to look into the pros and cons (both money and practical considerations) of doing this conversion.
Either way, best of luck, and remember to post pictures!
02-21-04, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by veganheart
This frame has no hole to put on the brakes, fender etc. Would I drill a hole in the seatstay "crossbar" or braze on cantilevers ( i think thats what they are called ).
).While your at it, give it a quick rattle can paint job
02-21-04, 08:03 AM
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dobber, you're being sarcastic, right?
veganheart, trust me when I say that you do not want this bike as a hybrid. track frames are designed with really steep angles that make for a very quick handling bike. this is good on a track, where they belong, but a bike that handles quickly can seem twitchy on the road after an hour or so.
This frame is more trouble then it is worth if you are going to put gears on it. sell it to a fixed gear person...they will orgasm over it. It isn't that its a bad frame, veganheart, its just a bad frame for YOU and your purposes.
veganheart, trust me when I say that you do not want this bike as a hybrid. track frames are designed with really steep angles that make for a very quick handling bike. this is good on a track, where they belong, but a bike that handles quickly can seem twitchy on the road after an hour or so.
This frame is more trouble then it is worth if you are going to put gears on it. sell it to a fixed gear person...they will orgasm over it. It isn't that its a bad frame, veganheart, its just a bad frame for YOU and your purposes.
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02-21-04, 09:40 AM
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Yes, this is a great looking track frame, but a really bad base for a hybrid bike.
Dont mess with it, you will break or devalue the frame. Sell it for lots of money, and buy something more appropriate.
The features you ned to look for are
1. The correct standover height and top tube length.
2. Clearance for the tyres you need (probably up to 32mm)
3. Clearance for fenders
4. Fittings for a luggage rack and waterbottle.
A good style for general purpose riding is a road sport bike, such as the Gunnar Sport. You can build these with flat or drop bars.
Dont mess with it, you will break or devalue the frame. Sell it for lots of money, and buy something more appropriate.
The features you ned to look for are
1. The correct standover height and top tube length.
2. Clearance for the tyres you need (probably up to 32mm)
3. Clearance for fenders
4. Fittings for a luggage rack and waterbottle.
A good style for general purpose riding is a road sport bike, such as the Gunnar Sport. You can build these with flat or drop bars.
02-21-04, 07:46 PM
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I think I would eat a Whopper from BK before I would mangle that track frame! You should too. Some things are just wrong.
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[bump] this post came up in a search for something else. i really hope this person didnt ruin that frame since it just made its way into my personal photo gallery.
09-20-04, 06:28 PM
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dont worry guys i never touched that frame. i never owned it, although i intended to at the time of my original post. I bought a TST on ebay for $400 with all the things in the right places. now a year later i am wondering if i should sell the thing as it seems a bit overkill for me. maybe i should just go back to my steel paramount.
