Go Back  Bike Forums > The Racer's Forum > "The 33"-Road Bike Racing
Reload this Page >

Any team ever pulled the trifecta?

Notices
"The 33"-Road Bike Racing We set this forum up for our members to discuss their experiences in either pro or amateur racing, whether they are the big races, or even the small backyard races. Don't forget to update all the members with your own race results.

Any team ever pulled the trifecta?

Old 05-29-05, 07:16 PM
  #1  
Photog Extraordinaire
Thread Starter
 
Crack'n'fail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 863

Bikes: Santa Cruz Chameleon, Cannondale R800 (CAAD4) with Dura-Ace upgrade

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Any team ever pulled the trifecta?

Has there ever been a team to win all 3 grand tours in one year?

I know I'm putting the cart before the horse, but if Armstrong goes out on top like he wants to. . .

But back to the original question, has it ever been done?
Crack'n'fail is offline  
Old 05-30-05, 04:04 PM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 693
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
When Bernard Hinault won the 1983 Vuelta-then held in spring, remember?- he also held the Giro and Tour titles from 1982.

Eddy Merckx won four in a row..the '72 Tour and Giro, the '73 Vuelta and Giro.

I assume you really meant this to be about a calendar year, not just a 12 month period, - but what the hell! ;-)
Flaneur is offline  
Old 05-30-05, 04:33 PM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
socalrider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: La Verne CA
Posts: 5,049

Bikes: Litespeed Liege, Motorola Team Issue Eddy Mercxk, Santana Noventa Tandem, Fisher Supercaliber Mtn. Bike

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 11 Times in 7 Posts
I know Roche won the Giro - TDF and Worlds in 1987.. I'm not sure how his Carrera team did in the other Tours that year..
socalrider is offline  
Old 05-31-05, 11:34 AM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
Keith99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 5,866
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts
I don't think so. It is a lot of work to check on teams. I once did check by country. That has only happened once. Easy to look up as 'The Eternal Second' won the vuelta that year giving France a sweep of the Tours.
Keith99 is offline  
Old 05-31-05, 02:00 PM
  #5  
Photog Extraordinaire
Thread Starter
 
Crack'n'fail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 863

Bikes: Santa Cruz Chameleon, Cannondale R800 (CAAD4) with Dura-Ace upgrade

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I can't find it happening ever, and I'm assuming if it had happened that would be a big deal and would probably be an easily google-able bit of info.

These other stats you guys are finding are quite impressive in their own right however.
Crack'n'fail is offline  
Old 05-31-05, 04:48 PM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 6,410

Bikes: Scapin EOS7 sloping, 10v Record, Ksyriums

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by socalrider
I know Roche won the Giro - TDF and Worlds in 1987.. I'm not sure how his Carrera team did in the other Tours that year..

Luis Herrera won the Vuelta in 87. Cafe de Colombia.......I think.
ed073 is offline  
Old 05-31-05, 05:38 PM
  #7  
Senior Member
 
Keith99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 5,866
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts
No team has ever won all 3 (I bothered to look it up). Excluding recent years (where I know that no team won all 3, I'm not forgetting USP winning the Tour and Vuelta) there have only been 4 times when a team won the Tour and Vuelta (I went with tour and Vuelta to start because for many years the Tour was national teams, the Vuelta is the youngest of the 3, war years took different years and the Tour and Vuelta were least apt to be won by the same team for other reasons). Those are 62, 63, 78 and 83. In none of those cases did the team that won the Tour and Vuelta aven enter a team in the Giro.

It seems that the closest a team has come is Banesto in 92 when Mig won the Tour and Giro and Delgado finished 3rd in the Vuelta.
Keith99 is offline  
Old 05-31-05, 05:47 PM
  #8  
robots in disguise
 
beppe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Baghdad-by-the-Bay
Posts: 305
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Keith99
No team has ever won all 3 (I bothered to look it up). Excluding recent years (where I know that no team won all 3, I'm not forgetting USP winning the Tour and Vuelta) there have only been 4 times when a team won the Tour and Vuelta (I went with tour and Vuelta to start because for many years the Tour was national teams, the Vuelta is the youngest of the 3, war years took different years and the Tour and Vuelta were least apt to be won by the same team for other reasons). Those are 62, 63, 78 and 83. In none of those cases did the team that won the Tour and Vuelta aven enter a team in the Giro.

It seems that the closest a team has come is Banesto in 92 when Mig won the Tour and Giro and Delgado finished 3rd in the Vuelta.
Uh, maybe I'm wrong, but didn't Postal pull off the Tour/Vuelta double in 2003, with Lance and Heras?
beppe is offline  
Old 05-31-05, 06:22 PM
  #9  
Since Ever Since
 
Devil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,575
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
You're correct, beppe.
Devil is offline  
Old 06-01-05, 09:31 AM
  #10  
Senior Member
 
Keith99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 5,866
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Yes he is, but I pointed that out in my post:

Excluding recent years (where I know that no team won all 3, I'm not forgetting USP winning the Tour and Vuelta).

Keith
Keith99 is offline  
Old 06-01-05, 09:36 AM
  #11  
Photog Extraordinaire
Thread Starter
 
Crack'n'fail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 863

Bikes: Santa Cruz Chameleon, Cannondale R800 (CAAD4) with Dura-Ace upgrade

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Keith99
No team has ever won all 3 (I bothered to look it up). Excluding recent years (where I know that no team won all 3, I'm not forgetting USP winning the Tour and Vuelta) there have only been 4 times when a team won the Tour and Vuelta (I went with tour and Vuelta to start because for many years the Tour was national teams, the Vuelta is the youngest of the 3, war years took different years and the Tour and Vuelta were least apt to be won by the same team for other reasons). Those are 62, 63, 78 and 83. In none of those cases did the team that won the Tour and Vuelta aven enter a team in the Giro.

It seems that the closest a team has come is Banesto in 92 when Mig won the Tour and Giro and Delgado finished 3rd in the Vuelta.

Good work Keith. (Although, I BOTHERED to look it up too, didn't find it and wanted to confirm it. I find that there are a lot of people on here who have a wealth of historical knowledge)

It's wild that none of those teams had participated in the Giro. I guess that's expecting to spread a team a bit thin in the pre-Pro Tour era?
Crack'n'fail is offline  
Old 06-01-05, 10:03 AM
  #12  
Senior Member
 
Keith99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 5,866
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Thanks CnF,

I actually did more than look it up. I had to compile the information. Skipped some recent years (Ones I was sure of, like everything from 1999 on and took shortcuts for others where I was pretty sure). Then looked up when the TDF was national teams and then started with the Vuelta (Youngest and least years to check). Wrote down the team of the winner of the TDF for years the Vuelta existed and the TDF was by teams. Then had to look up a handful of Giro years. (Which is why I went that way, there were more times when the same team won the Tour and Giro based just on the doubles of Merckx and Hinault).

The site that let me do this was:

memorie-du-cyclisme.net (I look it up in google and then read the translated version). The cycling hall of fame also has some good stuff. Find a few good sites and you can with some work get almost anything (Only almost, I still do not have a complete list of mostagressive rider awards for the TDF).

Also I have found that I find a lot more stuff through the back door. I had no luck looking up the Vuelta and little for the Giro. For the Tour I got hits, but tons of junk also. But search for "Merckx Hinault Coppi Binda" and you get all kinds of good stuff and less junk.

I'll close with a nasty question.

Has any team ever won at least 2 of the Major tours and 2 of the major classics in one year. (Answer yes).
Keith99 is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.