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Originally Posted by Big Paulie
So, if you've ridden one or more centuries in "one direction," what it easier/more fun?
As to it being more fun--you try sitting on a saddle for 12 hours-offroad. Fine for about 5- then the pain comes in. At 9 hours you are standing up to see if you are only sitting on the seat post as the pain is getting through to you, even though I have a suspension post. For some reason, by the end of this ride the pain will be gone. The euphoria of finishing the event, and the Numb nuts syndrome, and the pain that has set in from the other parts of the body, mean that Butt ache is the least of your worries. Till 2 days later, when you go out to stretch the legs to ease some of the stiffness.
I must admit that the thought of a 3 hour car ride home after this event would finally finish me so feel lucky that it is this way round. On top of that- I normally ride the bike home to save the packing up in the car, but this is done at a far more leisurely pace than the event.
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I've done several in all categories so here are my recollections and observations:
My assumption is that these are "organized group rides with support" for what it's worth.
First, the wind can play a very important factor as to which you might favor on a particular day. In fact, for me it can trump just about all the other factors. If the wind is 10+, give me a point to point ride with the wind at my back any day!!
My first choice is to do the longer rides as "loops". You're on different roads, seeing different sites-many times not knowing where the heck you are......just blissfully moving along. Essentially you seem to cover a lot more territory. It's also harder to let yourself not do the whole ride!
Second choice is an out and back. The advantage (or disadvantage) is knowing what you will have facing you for the return trip. I did an out and back in Alabama last year that involved some decent hills. It was somewhat rewarding climbing those things knowing that the return trip would be fun. It was also interesting as you met all the people that out in front you and also those that were behind you. I also find these to be more helpful to do them as small point to point rides-trying to complete a section at time. The disadvantge (or advantage) to an out and back is that if for some reason you stop having fun before the turnaround point, you can shorten the ride. Sometimes that can be too tempting for a lot of us!!
A long point to point for me usually involves a ride with extraordinary support from volunteers and many times assistance with vehicles at intersections so that can help make it more enjoyable. However, the inconvenience and logistics of having to transport back to the start or wherever your vehicle is makes is a much longer day. There a much harder to "not finish" because you have to get to one end or the other just to get to transportation.
In thinking about it, if you are with a group of similarly skilled riders and getting help from each other along the way, all three can be a terrific ride -- I'd have a hard time arguing the merits of one over the other.
My assumption is that these are "organized group rides with support" for what it's worth.
First, the wind can play a very important factor as to which you might favor on a particular day. In fact, for me it can trump just about all the other factors. If the wind is 10+, give me a point to point ride with the wind at my back any day!!
My first choice is to do the longer rides as "loops". You're on different roads, seeing different sites-many times not knowing where the heck you are......just blissfully moving along. Essentially you seem to cover a lot more territory. It's also harder to let yourself not do the whole ride!
Second choice is an out and back. The advantage (or disadvantage) is knowing what you will have facing you for the return trip. I did an out and back in Alabama last year that involved some decent hills. It was somewhat rewarding climbing those things knowing that the return trip would be fun. It was also interesting as you met all the people that out in front you and also those that were behind you. I also find these to be more helpful to do them as small point to point rides-trying to complete a section at time. The disadvantge (or advantage) to an out and back is that if for some reason you stop having fun before the turnaround point, you can shorten the ride. Sometimes that can be too tempting for a lot of us!!
A long point to point for me usually involves a ride with extraordinary support from volunteers and many times assistance with vehicles at intersections so that can help make it more enjoyable. However, the inconvenience and logistics of having to transport back to the start or wherever your vehicle is makes is a much longer day. There a much harder to "not finish" because you have to get to one end or the other just to get to transportation.
In thinking about it, if you are with a group of similarly skilled riders and getting help from each other along the way, all three can be a terrific ride -- I'd have a hard time arguing the merits of one over the other.
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The only centuries I've done that didn't return to the start point were optional centuries on Bicycle Ride Across Georgia, an annual 7 day cross-state ride. The hard part there was the big decision at the point where the century route parted from the regular route. So you have ridden say 40 miles and can go straight and be in camp in 20 miles, or turn left and ride another 60 miles. Fun decision on a 95 degree June day in Georgia! I usually chose the century. Now they have the century ride on the day we stay 2 nights in one site, so the decision comes even earlier. You can ride 100 miles or a shorter route or stay in your tent.
There is one ride I do every year in March that had a nice 50 mile loop with an option to turn around and reverse the loop for a century ride. I never once did that 2nd loop. Any time I see my car after riding 50 miles, I'm done!
There is one ride I do every year in March that had a nice 50 mile loop with an option to turn around and reverse the loop for a century ride. I never once did that 2nd loop. Any time I see my car after riding 50 miles, I'm done!
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One other factor: I am assuming you're talking about organized century rides, not solo century rides. The solo is the most boring. Its a race against time and the longer you're out there, the more it plays on your body and mind. That, I think, is more important than the course.
If its a tough course and takes 12 hours, Holy Cow, 8.33 mph. Good luck. I wouldn't do it. I would train and spin like crazy to get it around 6 hours or pick another course of my liking. Do you recall Pam Reed the ultra marathon runner who ran in August thru Death Valley? Public Television did a piece on her. Get it if you can.
I think there are the "extreme athletes" like Bode Miller, a little crazy to do downhill that fast with reckless abandon. Mountain climbers who have to do Mt Everest have a similar mentality like Reed. Steve Prefontaine ran his way, mostly guts and rage. Street smart Roberto Duran was a head case in the ring. As a lightweight he would work himself up to a frenzy before he got in the ring. That's why when he got hit, he just smiled with that crazed look in his eyes.
For those over 50, I think most of us would agree that a ride over 2 hours would be considered a long ride. So a Century would take more than twice that time and thus the Pam Reed type attraction. I imagine Pam could ride centuries as if it were just another ride. But for most of us mortals, the challenge is formidable.
If its a tough course and takes 12 hours, Holy Cow, 8.33 mph. Good luck. I wouldn't do it. I would train and spin like crazy to get it around 6 hours or pick another course of my liking. Do you recall Pam Reed the ultra marathon runner who ran in August thru Death Valley? Public Television did a piece on her. Get it if you can.
I think there are the "extreme athletes" like Bode Miller, a little crazy to do downhill that fast with reckless abandon. Mountain climbers who have to do Mt Everest have a similar mentality like Reed. Steve Prefontaine ran his way, mostly guts and rage. Street smart Roberto Duran was a head case in the ring. As a lightweight he would work himself up to a frenzy before he got in the ring. That's why when he got hit, he just smiled with that crazed look in his eyes.
For those over 50, I think most of us would agree that a ride over 2 hours would be considered a long ride. So a Century would take more than twice that time and thus the Pam Reed type attraction. I imagine Pam could ride centuries as if it were just another ride. But for most of us mortals, the challenge is formidable.
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Originally Posted by Big Paulie
Thanks for the input everyone...good stuff based on hard-earned experience.
Actually, I am talking about solo centuries. I ride 1-2 centuries a week, so long milage isn't a problem. I'm just curious about the mental effect of differing routes...out and back, multiple loops, and single direction.
One thing I have noticed, and several of you have pointed this out, is that if the opportunity to shut it down before 100 miles presents itself-- like when we pass by our home base mid-ride -- it's hard to keep going! That's the hardest part of multiple loop centuries. Also, one of my rides passes by a long line of campers on weekends, and the barbeques drive me nuts!
Obviously, a single direction solo century is hard, because...how do you get to the start point? I'm thinking about trying a 150 mile solo ride, where my wife takes me to the start point, and drives the same route (not at my riding speed, but with numerous "meet-up" points along the way.)
Oddly enough, I find long group rides to be more taxing, what with the conversation and concern for riding safety in close quarters. I like disappearing into my own thoughts for the 7-8 hours a century takes me...until I get a flat!
Actually, I am talking about solo centuries. I ride 1-2 centuries a week, so long milage isn't a problem. I'm just curious about the mental effect of differing routes...out and back, multiple loops, and single direction.
One thing I have noticed, and several of you have pointed this out, is that if the opportunity to shut it down before 100 miles presents itself-- like when we pass by our home base mid-ride -- it's hard to keep going! That's the hardest part of multiple loop centuries. Also, one of my rides passes by a long line of campers on weekends, and the barbeques drive me nuts!
Obviously, a single direction solo century is hard, because...how do you get to the start point? I'm thinking about trying a 150 mile solo ride, where my wife takes me to the start point, and drives the same route (not at my riding speed, but with numerous "meet-up" points along the way.)
Oddly enough, I find long group rides to be more taxing, what with the conversation and concern for riding safety in close quarters. I like disappearing into my own thoughts for the 7-8 hours a century takes me...until I get a flat!
Now our 100 mile ofroad is always covered by a back up vehicle. Mainly carrying spares for the Tandem, and not often used any of them, but I do have the reassurance that if I bend a wheel or shred a tyre, a replacement is not too far away. On top of that- it carries a supply of spare clothing and food and water that I would not like to carry on the ride. Only drawback is that if things are not going right, it is too easy to abort the ride, that I will regret after a short break. It also acts as a sag van for the poor unfortunates that have broken down, and need a lift to the next checkpoint.
I find that the mental part of a century comes in about 75 miles. The worry as to whether you should be slowing down to conserve a bit of energy, or that new noise- whats starting to fail on the bike? or the actual pain really sets in and it weighs on you making the wish to stop too easy. Then there is the euphoria of finishing the ride, and this starts a few miles before the end to get me through the pain? barrier that makes me want to give up.
Overral century rides are fantastic. I have the training to pace myself for the distance, I have the fitness to do the ride without many problems- I have the Endurance and stamina for this sort of ride and on top of that- it is great to prove to the youngsters on the ride that it is not only the fit ones that train every night, race every weekend and spend more on their bikes than I will over the next 5 years that can do a ride of this type.
Now where did I put the spare pair of legs for tomorrows ride as It looks as though I am out solo again.
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Originally Posted by Big Paulie
Oddly enough, I find long group rides to be more taxing, what with the conversation and concern for riding safety in close quarters. I like disappearing into my own thoughts for the 7-8 hours a century takes me...until I get a flat!
Multiple century rides a week. Wow!! That's impressive!
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I've done a couple of figure-eight centuries and I like that format. Usually the first "half" is a metric century with a 40-mile second loop in the other direction. I like stopping by home base, grabbing some stuff out of the car, and then heading back out.
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I can tell you that back in about 96, I took a weeks vacation to paint the house. I lived on the shores of Lake Erie. Instead I got a map out and figured I could ride around Lake Erie. Many solo centuries. I just put a credit card in my back pack along with an extra pair of shorts and a jersey. 750 miles in five and a half days. Seeing different scenery was great. It was also boring at times and a little scary being unsupported. On the other hand, you realize that the only way to back to your start point is is to keep riding. Mentally, I think you have to be able to live within yourself, not needing a companion to make the hours travel quicker. I will also admit that it was the first I "stopped to smell the roses". On Other centuries I rode all I saw was the pavement
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Originally Posted by Gene James
I can tell you that back in about 96, I took a weeks vacation to paint the house. I lived on the shores of Lake Erie. Instead I got a map out and figured I could ride around Lake Erie. I just put a credit card in my back pack along with an extra pair of shorts and a jersey. 750 miles in five and a half days. I will also admit that it was the first I "stopped to smell the roses". On Other centuries I rode all I saw was the pavement
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I haven't done that many centuries, but one thing that is a major effect for me is whether I know the route or not. When I know the route (as in the multiple laps scenario), I can go much faster than the the "unknown" routes where I am constantly having to stop the check the cue sheet (even though it may be mounted on my bars). Both of them have their advantages and disadvantages; I would get a little bit bored if I didn't discover new turf, and a little overwhelmed if I never saw any familar sights.
My centuries have all been circular, although I have done some touring point-to-point rides (but as part of a bigger circle).
My centuries have all been circular, although I have done some touring point-to-point rides (but as part of a bigger circle).
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Originally Posted by jazzy_cyclist
I haven't done that many centuries, but one thing that is a major effect for me is whether I know the route or not. When I know the route (as in the multiple laps scenario), I can go much faster than the the "unknown" routes where I am constantly having to stop the check the cue sheet (even though it may be mounted on my bars). Both of them have their advantages and disadvantages; I would get a little bit bored if I didn't discover new turf, and a little overwhelmed if I never saw any familar sights.
My centuries have all been circular, although I have done some touring point-to-point rides (but as part of a bigger circle).
My centuries have all been circular, although I have done some touring point-to-point rides (but as part of a bigger circle).
Only good point about that ride was that at 60 miles you passed through a town that had a Fish and Chip shop- OPEN at midday and on a Sunday. That does not happen in the UK !!!. The ride may have been awkward, but that Lunch was fantastic.
Then a good point about Rides you do know is that you collect a lot of riders around you- just because you know the route- and they know that fact. Good chance of getting a slipstream, but not so good on one ride we did, when it did get very heavy going into a headwind with,and we did count them, 22 riders getting a tow from those up the front.
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I also do one or more centuries a week. Often I get home after midnight.
There are benefits to out and back...
when you are really tired it's easier to not miss a turn on familiar roads.
It's easier to pace yourself just right.
You know how far it is to food, bathroom etc. is.
On my night centuries, it's easier to keep track of where you are in the dark.
It's easier to keep track of your headlight run time.
It's easier to keep track of a friend if they know the route too.
I like loops because..
lots of opportunity for exploring new routes and places. You learn your way around better.
Can be more interesting in the daytime. You may discover something really good.
Homeland security has a harder time following me.
I almost never do one way centuries. For myself why waste potential ride time with the car?
I do an organized century
with friends once or twice a year that is one way, just because my friends are going. I find I need to
concentrate on the route more, so I end up taking more time. But it's fun to have all the company.
There are benefits to out and back...
when you are really tired it's easier to not miss a turn on familiar roads.
It's easier to pace yourself just right.
You know how far it is to food, bathroom etc. is.
On my night centuries, it's easier to keep track of where you are in the dark.
It's easier to keep track of your headlight run time.
It's easier to keep track of a friend if they know the route too.
I like loops because..
lots of opportunity for exploring new routes and places. You learn your way around better.
Can be more interesting in the daytime. You may discover something really good.
Homeland security has a harder time following me.
I almost never do one way centuries. For myself why waste potential ride time with the car?
I do an organized century
with friends once or twice a year that is one way, just because my friends are going. I find I need to
concentrate on the route more, so I end up taking more time. But it's fun to have all the company.
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Originally Posted by cheeseflavor
What a great story, Gene! So, tell us... did you have any problems along the way?
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Great story! Always pays to know your route- and how unfriendly the US can be to cyclists.
BTW- You are lucky to have survived Detroit in your cycling garb. I grew up in that area & still travel there several times each year. I know of many stories where Motown car passengers have smacked a cyclist in the head with a bat/club just for "sport". My own brother was badly whipped by a car passenger with an antenna a few years ago. The police literally laughed at my father when he tried to file a crime report.
Detroit- The Disneyland of Death.
FWIW- It may have been a nicer (but longer) trip to ride up to Sarnia, Ontario, cross at Port Huron, then ridden back south to Ohio (i.e. staying west of Motown). Beautiful scenery and MUCH nicer people. (I've never ridden that full route, but have ridden in rural SW MI).
BTW- You are lucky to have survived Detroit in your cycling garb. I grew up in that area & still travel there several times each year. I know of many stories where Motown car passengers have smacked a cyclist in the head with a bat/club just for "sport". My own brother was badly whipped by a car passenger with an antenna a few years ago. The police literally laughed at my father when he tried to file a crime report.
Detroit- The Disneyland of Death.
FWIW- It may have been a nicer (but longer) trip to ride up to Sarnia, Ontario, cross at Port Huron, then ridden back south to Ohio (i.e. staying west of Motown). Beautiful scenery and MUCH nicer people. (I've never ridden that full route, but have ridden in rural SW MI).