It's Impossible to Buy a Touring Bike in New York City!
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It's Impossible to Buy a Touring Bike in New York City!
So I've finally decided to take the plunge and acquire a touring bike. I'm what you'd call a returning cyclist, I guess, and I'm attaining a pretty good level of fitness after years of knee trouble (I had a knee replacement, and I quit smoking, so everything is working pretty good). I did a fair amount of light touring a long time ago (weekend or long weekend trips, loaded, camping, but no cross-country tours or anything like that).
I did my research. I figured I should spend about $1,000, give or take a couple of hundred bucks. Bikes in that price range include the Jamis Aurora, Fuji Touring, Trek 520, Cannondale T800, Bianchi Volpe, and the Novara Randonee.
I then set out on the mean streets of New York, looking for bikes stores that carried any of these bikes.
Guess what? There aren't any. Not that I can find. There are plenty of stores that are authorized dealers for all of these brands (except Novara -- there are no REI stores anywhere near New York). So I can't get a look at any of these bikes. I did see one dusty old Trek 520 in a store, sized just right for someone about a foot shorter than me (I'm 6'2", and bike shops don't seem to have much in the way of appropriately-sized bikes, touring or otherwise, for me).
All of these shops were willing to order a touring bike for me, but I don't like the idea of buying a bike without at least standing over it and sitting on it. Ideally, I'd like a test ride. I'd at the very least like to see it. And anyway, if all a shop is going to do for me is place an order, why should I pay full New York City retail price for that? I can get the same level of service online for less.
So how do I solve this problem? I have no idea. Does anyone know of a good, trustworthy online bike store that can work with me on fit and sell me a bike?
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I did my research. I figured I should spend about $1,000, give or take a couple of hundred bucks. Bikes in that price range include the Jamis Aurora, Fuji Touring, Trek 520, Cannondale T800, Bianchi Volpe, and the Novara Randonee.
I then set out on the mean streets of New York, looking for bikes stores that carried any of these bikes.
Guess what? There aren't any. Not that I can find. There are plenty of stores that are authorized dealers for all of these brands (except Novara -- there are no REI stores anywhere near New York). So I can't get a look at any of these bikes. I did see one dusty old Trek 520 in a store, sized just right for someone about a foot shorter than me (I'm 6'2", and bike shops don't seem to have much in the way of appropriately-sized bikes, touring or otherwise, for me).
All of these shops were willing to order a touring bike for me, but I don't like the idea of buying a bike without at least standing over it and sitting on it. Ideally, I'd like a test ride. I'd at the very least like to see it. And anyway, if all a shop is going to do for me is place an order, why should I pay full New York City retail price for that? I can get the same level of service online for less.
So how do I solve this problem? I have no idea. Does anyone know of a good, trustworthy online bike store that can work with me on fit and sell me a bike?
Thanks.
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I feel your pain. I also was looking in NYC and also found exactly one Trek 520 that was the wrong size somewhere on the UWS. I pretty much called every bike shop in the city. You simply can't buy one off the rack here. Finally broke down and had my LBS measure me up and order a Surly LHT about 5 weeks ago that they offered to build up for me (for $1200). I'll let you know how that goes if they ever get the frame in . . .
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Originally Posted by troyclough
I feel your pain. I also was looking in NYC and also found exactly one Trek 520 that was the wrong size somewhere on the UWS. I pretty much called every bike shop in the city. You simply can't buy one off the rack here. Finally broke down and had my LBS measure me up and order a Surly LHT about 5 weeks ago that they offered to build up for me (for $1200). I'll let you know how that goes if they ever get the frame in . . .
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Wow, I figured NYC would be the best place to buy something like that. Amazing, special ordering sounds like something I'd have to do down here in Alabama.
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Chelsea Bicycles on 26th between 6th and 7th. Have been using them for about 3 years. Great people. Here's their website: https://www.chelseabicycles.net/ Their old address was 156 W 26th, but they've moved a few doors down closer to 6th Ave about a week or so ago.
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There's a used Cannondale T500 listed on Craigslist for $350 - looks to be in good shape. Might be worth checking out.
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no person in NYC should EVER complain about not being able to get a bike.
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finding your bike doesnt mean go to a bikeshop, it means go FIND your bike.
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finding your bike doesnt mean go to a bikeshop, it means go FIND your bike.
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bike shops in NYC are terrible.
as far as touring bikes go, I think A bicycle on 14th st or Bicycle Habitat maybe able to help. I know BH carries a lot of touring stuff
as far as touring bikes go, I think A bicycle on 14th st or Bicycle Habitat maybe able to help. I know BH carries a lot of touring stuff
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Originally Posted by RiotBoi
no person in NYC should EVER complain about not being able to get a bike.
craigslist
stealitback.com
garbagescout.com
finding your bike doesnt mean go to a bikeshop, it means go FIND your bike.
craigslist
stealitback.com
garbagescout.com
finding your bike doesnt mean go to a bikeshop, it means go FIND your bike.
As for the original question, I'm surprised! A couple of years ago when I was looking, I found the 520, the Jamis, the Bianchi and the Fuji Touring locally and was able to check them all out in person... I'm very surprised they're not stocked anymore! Perhaps it's just still too early in the spring and stocks haven't fleshed out yet?
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Just build one! Surly makes a great touring frame. A cheap build with barcons could run you as little as $700. For $1,000 you could probably afford 105. I recommend getting a 48/36/28 and a MTB cassette (32-11). That gearing would be much easier on your knees than standard road bike gearing. If you buy the necessary tools, you could build it yourself and save a fortune on maintence over time.
Otherwise, there are a few good options from Trek and Cannondale. You could have a LBS fit you and order one for you in your size, based on its measurements. As a big guy myself, I recommend the Cannondale touring frames from strength and stability and doubt you'd be unhappy.
Otherwise, there are a few good options from Trek and Cannondale. You could have a LBS fit you and order one for you in your size, based on its measurements. As a big guy myself, I recommend the Cannondale touring frames from strength and stability and doubt you'd be unhappy.
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Originally Posted by brokenrobot
As for the original question, I'm surprised! A couple of years ago when I was looking, I found the 520, the Jamis, the Bianchi and the Fuji Touring locally and was able to check them all out in person... I'm very surprised they're not stocked anymore! Perhaps it's just still too early in the spring and stocks haven't fleshed out yet?
Maybe you're right, and in a month or so all the shops will be stocking up for the spring/summer rush. We shall see.
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Originally Posted by troyclough
I feel your pain. I also was looking in NYC and also found exactly one Trek 520 that was the wrong size somewhere on the UWS. I pretty much called every bike shop in the city. You simply can't buy one off the rack here. Finally broke down and had my LBS measure me up and order a Surly LHT about 5 weeks ago that they offered to build up for me (for $1200). I'll let you know how that goes if they ever get the frame in . . .
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Originally Posted by Saintly Loser
I did my research. I figured I should spend about $1,000, give or take a couple of hundred bucks. Bikes in that price range include the Jamis Aurora, Fuji Touring, Trek 520, Cannondale T800, Bianchi Volpe, and the Novara Randonee.
I then set out on the mean streets of New York, looking for bikes stores that carried any of these bikes.
Guess what? There aren't any.
why should I pay full New York City retail price for that? I can get the same level of service online for less?
I then set out on the mean streets of New York, looking for bikes stores that carried any of these bikes.
Guess what? There aren't any.
why should I pay full New York City retail price for that? I can get the same level of service online for less?
My experience has been the same. My Jamis Aurora was puchased new from Ebay and my Volpe was purchased from a bike shop in Philadelphia! New York City sells the Trek 520 and Cannondale tourer. These bikes take YEARS to move which is why shops don't buy them. There was one Volpe in a store that was 3 years old and it sold two days before I was going to buy it. As a result, I ended up having to take 3 trains to Philadelphia to buy a new one.
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Let me clue you in - you're a newbie and you believe that there's some differences in these bikes and so you might prefer one to the other.
Believe me the differences are so slight as to be unimportant. Find a local shop that will measure you up and just buy the one that's the color you like that they sell.
There are differences in bikes but you'll need a couple of years of riding to recognize them and they are more in the line of preferences than in anything of practical value.
Just get a bike and ride. You'll start out probably loving the bike you bought and keeping fond memories of it forever.
Believe me the differences are so slight as to be unimportant. Find a local shop that will measure you up and just buy the one that's the color you like that they sell.
There are differences in bikes but you'll need a couple of years of riding to recognize them and they are more in the line of preferences than in anything of practical value.
Just get a bike and ride. You'll start out probably loving the bike you bought and keeping fond memories of it forever.
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Originally Posted by cyclintom
Let me clue you in - you're a newbie and you believe that there's some differences in these bikes and so you might prefer one to the other.
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Originally Posted by funbun
Wow, I figured NYC would be the best place to buy something like that. Amazing, special ordering sounds like something I'd have to do down here in Alabama.
But other than the bike shops, the trip was a blast. Looking forward to going back soon.
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Try a Fuji Tourer
I bought a Fuji tourer in Kentucky a month ago, and really like it. It listed for $900, but my LBS gave me a deal for $800. By the time I paid the tax and put some stuff on it, it was out the door for around $950. This is about $2-300 less than the Trek 5200. I let my wife ride my Fuji, and now she wants one, so we are headed back to our LBS today. We plan to do some light touring this summer, but mainly I use my Fuji for around town and rides out in the country. The tourer wheelbase is 3" longer than my Trek 1400, and it sure does make for a smoother ride. My LBS suggested I buy a tourer as my primary bike, because at age 67, the aluminum short wheelbase Trek was a little hard on my old bones. The Fuji weighs 36 pounds ready to roll (tools, lights, pump, seat bag, etc.) , but I have no trouble getting up the steepest Kentucky hill. I think the Fuji weighs 26 pounds as it comes from the factory, and this includes a rear rack Incidentally, my doctor just bought two Trek hybrids for himself and his wife. He has been a runner for a long time, but the constant pounding is taking its toll on his knees. So he is still running some, but rides the bike more and more. He is in his mid-50's. My knees started to go in my early 60's, and that's when I gave up running and went to a bike as my promary exercise. Last year, I cycled 1800 miles, according to my log book.
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Originally Posted by Greyfox
Did you try Bicycle Rennaisance? They usually have them.
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Originally Posted by Saintly Loser
I did my research. I figured I should spend about $1,000, give or take a couple of hundred bucks. Bikes in that price range include the Jamis Aurora, Fuji Touring, Trek 520, Cannondale T800, Bianchi Volpe, and the Novara Randonee.
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Can't NYC bikeshops um, order stuff for customers? They are able to order things from manufacturers and distributors in Tennessee, I don't see why it would be much different there.
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Presumably you'd want to test ride a couple different models.
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Originally Posted by KrisPistofferson
Can't NYC bikeshops um, order stuff for customers? They are able to order things from manufacturers and distributors in Tennessee, I don't see why it would be much different there.