Bareknuckle Vs. Raleigh Rush Hour Frame geometry
#1
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: the sticks, CA
Posts: 6
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Bareknuckle Vs. Raleigh Rush Hour Frame geometry
I am thinking about purchasing a bareknuckle frame via internet, but I need some help with the sizing. I am 5'4" and currently ride a 50 cm raleigh rush hour. According to the some threads posted on here earlier the bareknuckle frames run larger than most of their other bikes. I asked someone from trackstarnyc and the guy said that the frames are similar. Can anyone validate this? Anyones help is appreciated!
#2
bought a new car
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Bucktown, Chicago
Posts: 1,346
Bikes: 01 Pista and 99 Lemond Chambery
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I've never ridden a rushhour but I've been on 2 bareknuckles within the last week and both felt awesome.
#3
Junior Member
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 14
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I just picked up a bare knuckle frame+fork yesterday, 50cm IM 5'6" and normally ride a 54cm on road bike geometry, the stand over on the BK barely touches my nads, dont know if this helps you any, but, anyhoo...
#4
WTF?
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: livin' the dream
Posts: 462
Bikes: trek cross, gt mtb, khs track
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
^^^what's your inseam?
bareknuckle frames at business cycles.
rush hour geometry
all the sizes of the rush hour have the same bb height but the cranks get longer, isn't that weird?
bareknuckle frames at business cycles.
rush hour geometry
all the sizes of the rush hour have the same bb height but the cranks get longer, isn't that weird?
Last edited by mrbertfixy; 04-26-06 at 03:38 PM.
#5
Poseur
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 10
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Yes, definitely order a size smaller (bareknuckle). I usually ride a 54/56cm, but after I've read the threads about the sizing, I purchased a 52cm and couldn't be happier.
#6
WTF?
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: livin' the dream
Posts: 462
Bikes: trek cross, gt mtb, khs track
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
anyone care to share standover height of their bareknuckle? and include the what width tires you're using too.
#8
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: the sticks, CA
Posts: 6
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I have about a 29.5 inseam. I think the consensus says to size down, now i just gotta find someone who carries the yellow in a 48cm. Thanks everyone!
#9
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: the sticks, CA
Posts: 6
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by ScottMC
I just picked up a bare knuckle frame+fork yesterday, 50cm IM 5'6" and normally ride a 54cm on road bike geometry, the stand over on the BK barely touches my nads, dont know if this helps you any, but, anyhoo...
#11
Happy Cycling
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: SF
Posts: 417
Bikes: bareknuckle, bomber pro, 3Rensho SR, nagasawa special
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
i'm 5'10" and i ride a 52 and it fits great. one of the things you should know about the bareknuckle is that the seat tube is sized center-to-center, so my 52cm is more like 53.5 center to top of seat tube measurement. the 52 also has a 54.5cm top tube, which is why i think many people find the frames to run large for their size. going by the seat tube measurement alone, you may find yourself stretched out too far on the bars because as the frames get smaller, the top tube lengths tend to be proportionally longer. i would suggest a 48. that would give you a 52cm top tube. compare that to your rush hour and determine whether you feel you need a longer or shorter reach to your bars. the seat tube size is less relevant because your seat post is easier to adjust than a stem/steerer tube length.
#12
Poseur
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 10
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by mrbertfixy
anyone care to share standover height of their bareknuckle? and include the what width tires you're using too.
#13
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 2,047
Bikes: Custom Holland Ti road bike, Custom track bike I traded a painting for.
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
i dont know if you have yet, but consider overlap. my friend rides a 49-50cm bareknuckle and complains of massive overlap.
__________________
Ode to the after work nap ( ride your bike instead)
Ode to the nap
The evil, evil nap
It lures
you succumb
But only with good intent
Shortly I will rise
But you do not.
Do not succumb
To the evil, evil nap
Ode to the after work nap ( ride your bike instead)
Ode to the nap
The evil, evil nap
It lures
you succumb
But only with good intent
Shortly I will rise
But you do not.
Do not succumb
To the evil, evil nap
#14
Me talk pretty one day.
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,073
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Hey, TiP:
The fourth line of your sig is almost completely cut off and unreadable (using Firefox here).
The fourth line of your sig is almost completely cut off and unreadable (using Firefox here).
#15
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 577
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by eyefloater
Hey, TiP:
The fourth line of your sig is almost completely cut off and unreadable (using Firefox here).
The fourth line of your sig is almost completely cut off and unreadable (using Firefox here).
#16
Shadow Member
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: brooklyn (chicago until july07)
Posts: 189
Bikes: bareknuckle fixed, cannondale track, nishiki conversion
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
i cant compair the bareknuckle vs the rush, but vs my 03 khs flite100...
bareknuckle is stiffer, slightly lighter. im 6', my khs was a 57cm, my bareknuckle is a 54cm and fits me great. i think i have read that they are sized 3cm shorther than most other frames. so a if you normally ride a 57 get a 54, if you ride a 54 get a 51/50 or what ever sizes they come in.
i think the khs might have has a slightly higher top tube but i could be wrong. toe overlap is about the same on both, but geometry is diffrent. I had to shorten my chain when moving parts over to the bareknucle to keep it from being at the very end of the drop outs (or what ever track ends are properly called.)
if price is an issue, the bareknuckle frame is same price as the off the shelf rush hour.
bareknuckle is stiffer, slightly lighter. im 6', my khs was a 57cm, my bareknuckle is a 54cm and fits me great. i think i have read that they are sized 3cm shorther than most other frames. so a if you normally ride a 57 get a 54, if you ride a 54 get a 51/50 or what ever sizes they come in.
i think the khs might have has a slightly higher top tube but i could be wrong. toe overlap is about the same on both, but geometry is diffrent. I had to shorten my chain when moving parts over to the bareknucle to keep it from being at the very end of the drop outs (or what ever track ends are properly called.)
if price is an issue, the bareknuckle frame is same price as the off the shelf rush hour.
#17
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: the sticks, CA
Posts: 6
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by Terror_in_pink
i dont know if you have yet, but consider overlap. my friend rides a 49-50cm bareknuckle and complains of massive overlap.
#18
this bike is an aqueduct
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Gainesville, FL
Posts: 1,073
Bikes: Villin custom touring, Medici Pro Pista, KHS Alite1000, Windsor fixed commuter
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times
in
1 Post
I have massive toe overlap on my bike (it'd almost be pedal overlap on a smaller frame), but I don't think it's something worth complaining about, exactly. Track bikes are going to have pretty short wheelbases, it's gotta come from somewhere. Such is the territory...
__________________
Villin custom touring | Raleigh XXIX | Medici Pro Pista | 1978 Schwinn Stingray
Villin custom touring | Raleigh XXIX | Medici Pro Pista | 1978 Schwinn Stingray
#19
Junior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: the sticks, CA
Posts: 6
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by HexagonSun
i'm 5'10" and i ride a 52 and it fits great. one of the things you should know about the bareknuckle is that the seat tube is sized center-to-center, so my 52cm is more like 53.5 center to top of seat tube measurement. the 52 also has a 54.5cm top tube, which is why i think many people find the frames to run large for their size. going by the seat tube measurement alone, you may find yourself stretched out too far on the bars because as the frames get smaller, the top tube lengths tend to be proportionally longer. i would suggest a 48. that would give you a 52cm top tube. compare that to your rush hour and determine whether you feel you need a longer or shorter reach to your bars. the seat tube size is less relevant because your seat post is easier to adjust than a stem/steerer tube length.
#20
knucklehead
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: East Village, NYC
Posts: 520
Bikes: Rocky MT Track, Vivalo, Pista Concept, De Bernardi Track
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Originally Posted by biciclectic
I think the top tube for the bareknuckle is 53 and the top tube on my bike is a 52.5 and i feel slightly cramped already.
you may want to make a field trip into town to a place that actually has some of these frames in stock.
where the can put some wheels in the dropouts and you can stand over the frame. It would probably be worth the day trip.
I usually ride a 56. I rode a friend's 54 and it was what I would describe as big.......
#21
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Boston
Posts: 290
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I do agree that bareknuckles run big, but i honestly dont think they run THAT big. as stated above, im 5 10 and my 54 fits great, and i always though i had fairly short legs. eh