masi speciale fixed- anyone
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masi speciale fixed- anyone
does anyone have one? opinions?
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Are they even out yet? Tim? Are you out there?.
I want an update on the Coltello.
I want an update on the Coltello.
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Originally Posted by mcatano
They are out - I saw one in SF at Freewheel Valencia last week. It looked nice enough. I think they were asking $700-ish.
Complete right? Any specs on the shiny bits?
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Ta-da!
https://www.masibikes.com/cycles/speciale_fixed.php
"This isn't just a road bike with track dropouts either- it's the real deal."
Looks pretty slack to me.
https://www.masibikes.com/cycles/speciale_fixed.php
"This isn't just a road bike with track dropouts either- it's the real deal."
Looks pretty slack to me.
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Track bike with a pump peg and 2 sets of water bottle bosses??? 73º seat tube angle?
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Originally Posted by bonechilling
"This isn't just a road bike with track dropouts either- it's the real deal."
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I like it exept for the top tube bosses.
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Originally Posted by BostonFixed
edit: It looks like one of those $300 ebay motobecanes.
anyone here hear of Joy Tech hubs? According to Google,
it's $709.99, which is highway goddamn robbery.
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Originally Posted by bonechilling
Exactly what I thought, but with crappier components. Has
anyone here hear of Joy Tech hubs? According to Google,
it's $709.99, which is highway goddamn robbery.
anyone here hear of Joy Tech hubs? According to Google,
it's $709.99, which is highway goddamn robbery.
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Originally Posted by SingleSpeeDemon
I like it exept for the top tube bosses.
And no, it doesn't look like the Motobecane. It looks way better, really. Check the Interbike pics.
For the track, I'm interested in that Coltello. I hope Tim (masiguy) reads this and chimes in.
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Originally Posted by jamey
i think it's way too overpriced. those joytech hubs are just as crappy as suzue jr's.
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Originally Posted by Serendipper
All entry level bikes are about $700.00 now.
Whatcha talking about?
IRO (~$600)
Bianchi Pista ($550-600)
925 ($500)
Rush Hour (~$500)
There are more also; those are just a few.
All these are way less than $700 and have way better components.
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At that price, it's a no-brainer to go for the Jamis Sputnik (MSRP is $700, I think), which has pretty decent, name brand componentry, including formula hubs, and better 631 tubing. Plus the Sputnik drips with sexiness. That Masi should be closer to the $300-400 range or whatever Fuji Tracks are selling for.
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Originally Posted by Serendipper
You've owned and lived with a pair? I've never heard of them. All entry level bikes are about $700.00 now. What did you pay for your bike?
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Originally Posted by jamey
yeah i had a rear wheel with those hubs and they were pretty bad.
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Originally Posted by BostonFixed
???
Whatcha talking about?
IRO (~$600)
Bianchi Pista ($550-600)
925 ($500)
Rush Hour (~$500)
Whatcha talking about?
IRO (~$600)
Bianchi Pista ($550-600)
925 ($500)
Rush Hour (~$500)
Kona Paddy Wagon ($650)
Bianchi Fremont($750)
There are others, but pwning you is unneccesary, and frankly boring. You have a mean streak, and I can't help you with that. Just here to lay some facts down on the hate parade.
I admit that "all entry level bikes" was a poor choice of words on my part. I should have said that all entry level bikes are priced up to around $700. But why would one nitpick like that? Lame.
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It's terrible to see Faliero's signature on the top tube of these bikes.
Like a big slap in the face to history.
Like a big slap in the face to history.
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i've had to work on a few joytech hubs. none of them were track hubs, but from the ones i saw they seemed pretty shoddy. cheap axles, cones crushed easily, etc.
the whole kit ka-boodle seems a bit overpriced to me, and not very track-friendly...
the whole kit ka-boodle seems a bit overpriced to me, and not very track-friendly...
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not all joytech hubs are crap
joytech and novatec are the same company. novatec makes the dimension/nashbar/soma hubs
joytech and novatec are the same company. novatec makes the dimension/nashbar/soma hubs
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I forgot about the Jamis. Yeah, waaaay better deal for the price. Pacific bike here in SF was showing stock and I wanted to see it in person. Called and they sold out (quick the guy said). Still want to size it up in person.
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My conversion has steeper angles, shorter wheelbase and higher BB.
This is just a road bike with track fork ends.
This is just a road bike with track fork ends.
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Sorry again for the delay here, just been crazy busy here- which hopefully means I get to keep this job.
Let's see, where to start?
The bike geometries- it falls between traditional road and traditional track. We aimed to minimize toe overlap so that it could be ridden on the road, but not so long and slack that it rides like a pig on the track. We opted for all the bosses because let's face it, out of all the ones that get sold, only a tiny, tiny fraction will ever see an oval. All the rest will be ridden on the road. So we made it as road friendly as possible.
The hubs; I have raced Keirin on those hubs and done multiple cog changes through the rounds of racing and they held up great. Joy Tech makes products for a lot of people under the other company's name, so you may be riding Joy Tech now... these hubs are good. Very smooth sealed bearings and very solid hub flanges. I've been very happy. The proto hubs I have came with solid flanges and the production hubs have cutout flanges that look pretty slick. The hubs also have sweet steel axles and real track nuts. They are good hubs- if not, they won't be on the bike next year. (Two colors next year.)
The Coltello is the all-race frame/fork. The steel bike was never intended to be a full-on race bike. The Coltello has been raced at Nationals and will be going to the World Cup this year, so it's good enough for anything you want to throw at it. First frames are shipping out of here now and are already almost sold out. I'm trying to get the next run moved up, so we can fill the pipeline up again.
No doubt the Jamis is a nice bike. Hell, all of them are. Let's be honest though- almost all of these things will be ridden on the road. Unless you have to have that urban-hip and ride a retired Keirin frame without brakes (and have a death wish), a frame with a few braze-ons just makes sense. We built the thing to be a good option for the largest possible swath of riders. On the plus side, of the people who have ridden the bikes, I have heard nothing but rave reviews. If anybody hears differently, please let me know- seriously.
Ok, go ride a bike now.
Let's see, where to start?
The bike geometries- it falls between traditional road and traditional track. We aimed to minimize toe overlap so that it could be ridden on the road, but not so long and slack that it rides like a pig on the track. We opted for all the bosses because let's face it, out of all the ones that get sold, only a tiny, tiny fraction will ever see an oval. All the rest will be ridden on the road. So we made it as road friendly as possible.
The hubs; I have raced Keirin on those hubs and done multiple cog changes through the rounds of racing and they held up great. Joy Tech makes products for a lot of people under the other company's name, so you may be riding Joy Tech now... these hubs are good. Very smooth sealed bearings and very solid hub flanges. I've been very happy. The proto hubs I have came with solid flanges and the production hubs have cutout flanges that look pretty slick. The hubs also have sweet steel axles and real track nuts. They are good hubs- if not, they won't be on the bike next year. (Two colors next year.)
The Coltello is the all-race frame/fork. The steel bike was never intended to be a full-on race bike. The Coltello has been raced at Nationals and will be going to the World Cup this year, so it's good enough for anything you want to throw at it. First frames are shipping out of here now and are already almost sold out. I'm trying to get the next run moved up, so we can fill the pipeline up again.
No doubt the Jamis is a nice bike. Hell, all of them are. Let's be honest though- almost all of these things will be ridden on the road. Unless you have to have that urban-hip and ride a retired Keirin frame without brakes (and have a death wish), a frame with a few braze-ons just makes sense. We built the thing to be a good option for the largest possible swath of riders. On the plus side, of the people who have ridden the bikes, I have heard nothing but rave reviews. If anybody hears differently, please let me know- seriously.
Ok, go ride a bike now.