okay, lets argue about full vs front suspension
01-30-07, 11:20 PM
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okay, lets argue about full vs front suspension
i recently entered the market for a new MTB but im finding all kinds of pro's and con's for everything i look at. i live in florida so there's not as much here for me to ride as there would be in just about any other part of the state ... i will be doing mostly singletrack and xc stuff ... full suspension feels better on my butt and all, and looks cooler too, but do hardtails have any SERIOUS advantages or quirks that i should be aware of in my comparison shopping?
lets have a really fun.. "debate" ... on which one is better for trail riding
lets have a really fun.. "debate" ... on which one is better for trail riding
01-30-07, 11:22 PM
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you live in florida?!!!!!!!!!!!!
go ride at markham park......its awsome
i dont know pros or cons of fs vs hardtail
go ride at markham park......its awsome
i dont know pros or cons of fs vs hardtail
01-30-07, 11:26 PM
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pros of xc.
-lighter(most of the time)
-more control(depending on the rider)
-faster, meant for racing(most of the time)
pro of fs
-can do huge, huge drops
-can ride just about anything
-comfort?
those are mostly all that i partially know, best to google it. theres plenty of websites that talk about the pros and cons. people can rant on forever on this topic...
i personally like hardtail b/c there are less pivot points to have to worry about, and less parts.
-lighter(most of the time)
-more control(depending on the rider)
-faster, meant for racing(most of the time)
pro of fs
-can do huge, huge drops
-can ride just about anything
-comfort?
those are mostly all that i partially know, best to google it. theres plenty of websites that talk about the pros and cons. people can rant on forever on this topic...
i personally like hardtail b/c there are less pivot points to have to worry about, and less parts.
01-30-07, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by alextrox69
you live in florida?!!!!!!!!!!!!
go ride at markham park......its awsome
i dont know pros or cons of fs vs hardtail
go ride at markham park......its awsome
i dont know pros or cons of fs vs hardtail
are you just posting in every thread to get huge post count so you wont look like a noob?
01-30-07, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jiiiim
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01-30-07, 11:46 PM
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I went with a Santa Cruz Chamaleon HT and didn't look back.
It sounds counter-intuitive, but I think a HT is preferable the rougher and more technical a trail is, when absolute speed isn't so much a concern as is control.
If the trail is relatively smooth with only small <6" obstructions and obstacles and most of the routes are wide open "peadly" sections, then I think a good XC FS bike would be the best bet.
It sounds counter-intuitive, but I think a HT is preferable the rougher and more technical a trail is, when absolute speed isn't so much a concern as is control.
If the trail is relatively smooth with only small <6" obstructions and obstacles and most of the routes are wide open "peadly" sections, then I think a good XC FS bike would be the best bet.
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Almost anybody can get away with a hardtail unless you truly are hucking. For when I trailride i'm actually looking to get back into a hardtail, but for when I race it's a dually all the way. Faster and more managable.
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hardtail will make you develop your skills more. what more can you want?
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hardtails are usually more efficent because the rear spring doesn't exist. The fs are leaps and bounds better then before with the reduction of pedal bob. Fs usually require less skill because you can go over just about everything; however, a hardtail its easier on your body if you pick your line.
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I agree, hardtails feel better and improve your skill much better then a fully. Which is why i'm getting rid of my full suspension trailbike.
Fully's still rule for racing though.
Fully's still rule for racing though.
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yeah. i've never been able to afford a fully and thusly haven't really been able to see what they're all about. they look fun as hell, but i still really like picking a clean line and trying not to get thrown from the horse.
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The thing about a fully is, that you really shouldn't try and cheap out on one. It would feel alot nicer to get a good hardtail.
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Originally Posted by alumrock12
pros of xc.
-lighter(most of the time)
-more control(depending on the rider)
-faster, meant for racing(most of the time)
pro of fs
-can do huge, huge drops
-can ride just about anything
-comfort?
those are mostly all that i partially know, best to google it. theres plenty of websites that talk about the pros and cons. people can rant on forever on this topic...
i personally like hardtail b/c there are less pivot points to have to worry about, and less parts.
-lighter(most of the time)
-more control(depending on the rider)
-faster, meant for racing(most of the time)
pro of fs
-can do huge, huge drops
-can ride just about anything
-comfort?
those are mostly all that i partially know, best to google it. theres plenty of websites that talk about the pros and cons. people can rant on forever on this topic...
i personally like hardtail b/c there are less pivot points to have to worry about, and less parts.
To the OP, Alot of your decition will depend on the type of riding you'll be doing but it sounds like a good hardtail or a short travel XC bike will fit the bill for you. Check into a Giant Anthem or the Specialized Epic if you decide to go the FS route. I have a friend that just got a Salsa Moto Rapido that is a sweet HT. What is your price range?
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Originally Posted by Audiophile121
but do hardtails have any SERIOUS advantages or quirks that i should be aware of in my comparison shopping?
Generally, if you have $1000 to spend, you can get a good solid hardtail. For the same $1,000, you will get a low budget full suspension.
ie. you will get more bang for your buck with the hardtail
What is your budget? or is there no budget?
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Originally Posted by junkyard
the answer is: 8
I thought the answer was 10" in the rear
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HT - better control, lighter, faster uphill (depending upon the rider, of course!!)
FS - perhaps faster on the downhill? heavier.
My kid started with no suspension, went to a HT (hardrock), then FS (FSR), then a Scalpel (FS), then decided to go back to HT - granted, he's an experienced technical rider, but he likes the better control the HT offers for XC racing.
FS - perhaps faster on the downhill? heavier.
My kid started with no suspension, went to a HT (hardrock), then FS (FSR), then a Scalpel (FS), then decided to go back to HT - granted, he's an experienced technical rider, but he likes the better control the HT offers for XC racing.
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No offense,
but it seems like people who have a civic complain about Ferrari design.
but it seems like people who have a civic complain about Ferrari design.
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I think a good FS is better in almost every way. Unless you're on a budget of < $1000, then bang for buck suggests a hardtail.
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Originally Posted by jiiiim
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