Fighting and confrontation.
05-01-07, 12:05 PM
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Fighting and confrontation.
Never having been in a race before, and seeing the threads regarding tapping, fist fighting, etc...
Is this type of behavior common? Is some aggression/intimidation key to being a successful racer?
Is this type of behavior common? Is some aggression/intimidation key to being a successful racer?
05-01-07, 12:11 PM
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Not common.
Don't be surprised if you get touched on the hip though. That's basically some people's way of saying "I'm here, so don't swerve into me".
Don't be surprised if you get touched on the hip though. That's basically some people's way of saying "I'm here, so don't swerve into me".
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Fist fights are very uncommon. A little bumping, usually not intentional, is common.
If you don't have some aggression, and willingness to stick your nose in, you are going to be spit out the back pretty quick though.
If you don't have some aggression, and willingness to stick your nose in, you are going to be spit out the back pretty quick though.
05-01-07, 12:38 PM
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Real fights rarely occur, except when someone does something that is really dirty pool, like slamming on the brakes to crash someone on purpose, intentionally hooking someone to crash them.
If someone does something stupid, there may be a lot of posturing and yelling until the adrenaline wears off, but most riders are tolerant of honest mistakes.
And then theres the incidents where its not clear who was at fault, again, lots of trash talking but usually no fists.
If someone does something stupid, there may be a lot of posturing and yelling until the adrenaline wears off, but most riders are tolerant of honest mistakes.
And then theres the incidents where its not clear who was at fault, again, lots of trash talking but usually no fists.
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05-01-07, 01:00 PM
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In Colorado we went through a season where people were occasionally punching quads with knuckles. This happened to one of my good friends who was a Cat 2. He's also completely psychotic, and may have deserved it (somewhat).
He didn't wait two pedal strokes before literally jumping onto this guy at 27mph and riding him to a stop on the pavement. Then he whaled on the guy for a few punches, got back on his bike and chased back on. Of course they pulled him though.
He didn't wait two pedal strokes before literally jumping onto this guy at 27mph and riding him to a stop on the pavement. Then he whaled on the guy for a few punches, got back on his bike and chased back on. Of course they pulled him though.
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Hahahaha, watching a fistfight among cyclists is a comical thought, you'd likely see someone break an arm after they connected a punch.
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Originally Posted by Cypress
It looks like this:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=p7vuGbfVlt0
https://youtube.com/watch?v=p7vuGbfVlt0
05-01-07, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Cypress
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Originally Posted by CastIron
Looks like a cat fight.
like this. 3:35. revenge jacknife ftw.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=YGnLDr6jRSI
I think the title sponsor of the event KidsPeace wasn't too chipper.
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^^ seems like Carney has a habit of getting in cycling fights.
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I saw the track video a while back.
I draw the line at people intentionally trying to hurt me. THAT would be addressed in a rather direct manner. Personally, I deal with enough occupational violence to not seek it out elsewhere. Such conduct is abhorrent.
I draw the line at people intentionally trying to hurt me. THAT would be addressed in a rather direct manner. Personally, I deal with enough occupational violence to not seek it out elsewhere. Such conduct is abhorrent.
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Originally Posted by bdcheung
^^ seems like Carney has a habit of getting in cycling fights.
05-01-07, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by WCroadie
Seems like people have a habit of knocking him down after a race. I could be wrong but neither I, nor the announcers saw Jame do anything wrong in that race.
I don't know enough about all the post-race situations involving Carney to make a definitive statement, but hopefully someone with more information can do a comparative analysis between the events and help us figure out why he's always involved.
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Yeah you make a very good point. I just don't like to see someone get accused of things if it's not deserved. But like you, I don't know a lot about the situations he's been involved in. I know and ride with some guys on his team, they are good guys, but I personally don't know Jame. I try to keep an opened mind and put myself in their position and think I would react.
But you are correct, trouble follows people for reasons.
But you are correct, trouble follows people for reasons.
05-01-07, 04:33 PM
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In Colorado we went through a season where people were occasionally punching quads with knuckles. This happened to one of my good friends who was a Cat 2. He's also completely psychotic, and may have deserved it (somewhat).
He didn't wait two pedal strokes before literally jumping onto this guy at 27mph and riding him to a stop on the pavement. Then he whaled on the guy for a few punches, got back on his bike and chased back on. Of course they pulled him though.
He didn't wait two pedal strokes before literally jumping onto this guy at 27mph and riding him to a stop on the pavement. Then he whaled on the guy for a few punches, got back on his bike and chased back on. Of course they pulled him though.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
In the NHL he would have stayed in the game and made the highlight reels on the 11PM news.
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see there's your problem. if someone in the field is racing with a frame pump, then you know you must be in a CatV race. in which case, expect anything to happen. including spontaneous combustion. of steel.
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05-01-07, 05:39 PM
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'A pump'?
Isn't that a fashion accessory?
Get back on topic.
Isn't that a fashion accessory?
Get back on topic.
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Originally Posted by bdcheung
see there's your problem. if someone in the field is racing with a frame pump, then you know you must be in a CatV race. in which case, expect anything to happen. including spontaneous combustion. of steel.
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Originally Posted by CrimsonKarter21
Tell me about it, there was a guy with a rack on his Varsity in the Cat 5 race on Saturday.
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I did a race with mudguards and a rack.... came 18th out of 30 
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Originally Posted by classic1
I rode a race once where one rider clobbered another with his pump.
05-01-07, 10:10 PM
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Cat 3, race with pump... <well, in road races -- only one set of wheels these days>