Fixed gear stuff: Italy or Japan?
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Fixed gear stuff: Italy or Japan?
I don't wan't to start a flame war, just curious ...
Do you prefer Italian or Japanese fixed gear stuff and why?
Do you prefer Italian or Japanese fixed gear stuff and why?
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here in germany italian stuff is a much cheaper than japanese so i ride old italian steel frames and campagnolo for work. think both du their job and the bling is also the same so...
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I had my heart set on an Aussie frame with Italian bits. The framemaker had retired, so I settled for
a Japanese frame and Japanese bits. Mainly for costs. NJS stuff is pretty cheap.
https://velospace.org/node/3494
You decide if you like it.
a Japanese frame and Japanese bits. Mainly for costs. NJS stuff is pretty cheap.
https://velospace.org/node/3494
You decide if you like it.
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Japanese. Besides 1" steering tubes, even the old ones have standard sized parts by today's standards.
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Italian... Think about it, the saddles aren't ass-hatchets and their much more classic. NJS is overhyped.
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I ride japanese bikes, and will continue to do so, mostly because of price and availablility. Italian bikes are beautiful, and If I get the money, I will build one.
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I had my heart set on an Aussie frame with Italian bits. The framemaker had retired, so I settled for
a Japanese frame and Japanese bits. Mainly for costs. NJS stuff is pretty cheap.
https://velospace.org/node/3494
You decide if you like it.
a Japanese frame and Japanese bits. Mainly for costs. NJS stuff is pretty cheap.
https://velospace.org/node/3494
You decide if you like it.
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I love Italian, but to play devil's advocate, much Italian stuff is actually "hype." By the late 70s and early 80s, lots of Italian companies knew the mystique was there surrounding their frames, and without any real competition world-wide, the quality tends to decline. At least this is what I've observed working on Italian frames over the last few years.
I also favor Japanese because there are wayyyyyy more 50cm Japanese bikes than there are Italian! But I would trade my current frame for a Guerciotti, De Rosa, etc. in a hard beat.
I also favor Japanese because there are wayyyyyy more 50cm Japanese bikes than there are Italian! But I would trade my current frame for a Guerciotti, De Rosa, etc. in a hard beat.
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Narita alright. The road is imotosando. The other pics are in Narita-san temple.
I live here in Narita. How come you know the road? I mean Joliet is long way away....
https://velospace.org/node/3494
I live here in Narita. How come you know the road? I mean Joliet is long way away....
https://velospace.org/node/3494
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too many kids start out by saying "my bike is all njs..." who the **** cares? You anticipate rollin through JP and getting spanked in a Kieran?
It'd be like if a bunch of Japanese chefs were going nuts over Kosher food for the "K" stamp on it...
True the components are reliable, their availability and aesthetic is nice, but when it comes down to it. Give me Campy over NJS.
It'd be like if a bunch of Japanese chefs were going nuts over Kosher food for the "K" stamp on it...
True the components are reliable, their availability and aesthetic is nice, but when it comes down to it. Give me Campy over NJS.
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It's my preference. I love the italian styling and classic throwback steez. Dream ride's a Cinelli, not a Samson.
Still, I passed up C-record hubs for sealed Phils, so it isn't THAT big of an issue. I tend to lean towards practicality over aesthetic for a bike that i ride everyday.
The NJS stuff is nice and all, but i'd rather roll with classic ****.
Still, I passed up C-record hubs for sealed Phils, so it isn't THAT big of an issue. I tend to lean towards practicality over aesthetic for a bike that i ride everyday.
The NJS stuff is nice and all, but i'd rather roll with classic ****.
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Narita alright. The road is imotosando. The other pics are in Narita-san temple.
I live here in Narita. How come you know the road? I mean Joliet is long way away....
https://velospace.org/node/3494
I live here in Narita. How come you know the road? I mean Joliet is long way away....
https://velospace.org/node/3494
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while living in Italy I learned that they use illegal Chinese immigrants for most all their manufacturing, which really ruined the mystique of “Made In Italy”. Probably the same in Japan, but I don’t know for sure. Regardless, every piece of my bike was made in Japan except my selle saddle and cenelli tape.
aldone, sei italiano? di dove sei?
aldone, sei italiano? di dove sei?
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for my fancy bike: italian. why? every part is classy, vintage, bought used, smoooooth, rare.
for my everyday/lockup bike: japanese. why? cheaper, more available replacement parts, njs stuff can be had by just grabbing an EAI catalog or bensbike.com.
favorite japanese grouppo: suntour superbe pro, but i sold all mine
for my everyday/lockup bike: japanese. why? cheaper, more available replacement parts, njs stuff can be had by just grabbing an EAI catalog or bensbike.com.
favorite japanese grouppo: suntour superbe pro, but i sold all mine