Deore crank help
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Deore crank help
I saw these the other https://cgi.ebay.com/Shimano-FC-M569-...QQcmdZViewItem
Do they use standard chainrings? Looks like the big ring uses some kind of proprietary rings.
Tim
Do they use standard chainrings? Looks like the big ring uses some kind of proprietary rings.
Tim
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Holy mongroly... the outer ring is rivetted to the spider. This must be a collector's piece. The fact it came from a bike shop liquidation indicates it has been in the big ol' parts bin out the back for a long, long, long time.
Undoubtedly, S Brown will know the history of this particular crankset... if not the guys in the Vintage and Classic forum.
Undoubtedly, S Brown will know the history of this particular crankset... if not the guys in the Vintage and Classic forum.
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Damn... if that is original (and not some DIY job) it has to be some pretty early Deore stuff.
I've never seen the likes of that but that is the nature of working on bikes...there are always surprises.
I've never seen the likes of that but that is the nature of working on bikes...there are always surprises.
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Really Early MTB LX or XT stuff had 5 arms on the gears. This must have been early 4 arm stuff in the mid 90's I'd say. They made a few of these riveted wonders and they had WAY too many complaints when the chainrings wore out.
Unless you can get a really good pic of the teeth, it's best to stay away from these.
I shudder just thinking about these!
Chris
Unless you can get a really good pic of the teeth, it's best to stay away from these.
I shudder just thinking about these!
Chris
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In the late '80's and early '90's Shimano's MTB groups were Deore LX, DX and XT and all used 5-arm 110/74 mm BCD cranks. I have a DX crank on a '92 Trek 1420 and an LX crank on a '93 Trek 7000 and both are 110/74 with 5-arms. The riveted stuff at the time was the really low line (Acera?) and similar.
This thing is really peculiar. Apparently the big ring is riveted to the spider but the middle and granny ring are bolted on.
This thing is really peculiar. Apparently the big ring is riveted to the spider but the middle and granny ring are bolted on.
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According to this site, they are 1997-98
https://www.fa-technik.adfc.de/Herste...o/Gruppen.html
https://www.fa-technik.adfc.de/Herste...o/Gruppen.html
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Maybe it's based on the design criteria that MTB riders spend most of their riding time in the middle and small chainrings, and so the larger ring, which is not so prone to wear because of less use and larger diameter could afford to be a permanent fixture by being rivetted on.
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I saw these the other https://cgi.ebay.com/Shimano-FC-M569-...QQcmdZViewItem
Do they use standard chainrings? Looks like the big ring uses some kind of proprietary rings.
Tim
Do they use standard chainrings? Looks like the big ring uses some kind of proprietary rings.
Tim
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Really Early MTB LX or XT stuff had 5 arms on the gears. This must have been early 4 arm stuff in the mid 90's I'd say. They made a few of these riveted wonders and they had WAY too many complaints when the chainrings wore out.
Unless you can get a really good pic of the teeth, it's best to stay away from these.
I shudder just thinking about these!
Chris
Unless you can get a really good pic of the teeth, it's best to stay away from these.
I shudder just thinking about these!
Chris
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I just went back to the OP's picture link. If you look at the inside face of the crank, there seems to be a lockring that attaches the entire spider to the crank arm and allows removal of all three chainrings as a unit. So, in theory, it looks like you can replace the rings. Where you would get a replacement is another question.
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I just went back to the OP's picture link. If you look at the inside face of the crank, there seems to be a lockring that attaches the entire spider to the crank arm and allows removal of all three chainrings as a unit. So, in theory, it looks like you can replace the rings. Where you would get a replacement is another question.
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I don't think this thing represents Shimano's future designs. I seems to be a one-time low cost model and is obsolete. Current Shimano MTB stuff is indeed proprietary in spider design and BCD but replacement chainrings are pretty widely available.
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I just went back to the OP's picture link. If you look at the inside face of the crank, there seems to be a lockring that attaches the entire spider to the crank arm and allows removal of all three chainrings as a unit. So, in theory, it looks like you can replace the rings. Where you would get a replacement is another question.
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I believe the OP was just curious about the crank he saw offered on e-Bay and wondered how it was constructed. Thereafter, this thread went off on an academic discussion of its rather peculiar design features. I'm not sure anyone was seriously considering buying one.
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