I only do on bike paths when i dont have to worry about cars. Whats in your ipod, mp3 player etc? I just made me a riding list it goes like:

Bob marley-redemption sond
Three little birds
jamming
could you be loved

by that time im getting warmed up so the music gets a bit faster
Silversun pickups-lazy eye
I need you tonight-zztop
Steive Ray Vaughan- Voodoo chile

them im usually moving pretty fast
Life is beautiful-sixx am
anthrax-antisocial
caught in a mosh
suicidal tendencies-trip at the brain
Pennywise-F*ck Authority
Drowning pool-bodies
Motorcycle-as the rush comes
BT-Never going to come back down

Cool down
dashboard confessionals-screaming infidelites
stevie ray vaughan-rivera paradise
Jimi Hendrix-redhouse
catfish blues
buddy guy-dam right i got the blues
Led Zeppelin-Ten years gone
mixed jazz from there

I've had too many riders nearly bump me as I pass after a coutesy,"onyerleft!". They all say sear it's safe but doesn't seem that way when they drift into me after I do whatever I can to make the passs safe. Last guy just about bumped me but received a very firm stiffarm. All he could do was apologize.

One jogger decided to cut infront of my wife on an underpass. Rocks and river on one side and a steel rail on the other. I had just told her to slow. We both yelled on her left and I rang the bell I had at the time. Sure enough as she started to pass, he made a sharp left cut into her. He bumped her, she swerved and nearly hit the rail with a loud scream. I stopped to give that jerkwad a piece of my mind. He said I had an anger problem. I said ," I sure do when some idiot just about kills my wife"!

But that's ok, it's safe! Especially when you flat, your tire hisses and you miss the warning and slide out of control.

Thanks for the opinion, does not pertain to me..but thanks

You got it Johnny Consales!



Well I guess it would work for you then. But where we ride, we encounter close to 30 or 40 riders minimum. So I guess your situation may be different. But when we approach a rider with ep's, it's a 90%chance they will drift into us as we pass.

For your safety though, don't think mtb tires won't flat. When they do, they stick into the ground more than roadies and/or more of a chance of getting stuck in the brakes. Plus the worst headbangin' accidents I've seen have been at low speeds (8mph). Not just the speed on roadies that can be dangerous.

Out of curiosity, do you wear a helmet on every ride? OR does that not pertain to you either?

I wear a helmet when I ride, and I also have my earbuds in with my MP3 player going. I also have a mirror that I look at every few seconds. I don't ride where many others ever are. I live in a small town in Iowa, and I ride the state highway with a shoulder for bikes. I see the vehicles coming, as I pay attention, I see rocks coming in front of me, because I pay attention, can hear vehicles as the approach me from the front or rear as I pay attention. I know I am not the normal rider, but I want to survive, but I also want to exercise.

I was completely against them, until I decided to do a 40 mile ride and was tired of hearing nothing other than my tires on the road. Does it eliminate something I might need to hear. Very possible, but to this point it hasn't. Did I hear my tire go flat, no. But, I also wasn't wearing my ear buds at the time either.



As far as music in my MP3 player. I have over 150 GB of music, so I listen to classical, jazz, bluegrass, rock, very little country. I can listen to almost all types of music as I have always had an open mind when it came to music.

Yes i never go without my helmet. Where i ride my mtb its usually on a terrain called chat..its a coarse sand type stuff and i would not hear the tire "flat" if i had a puncture with our without music..its kind of a noisy substance to roll on. This stuff has kind of the same consistency of sand but its more packed down so it forms a nice surface. It will give if you do hit in though, thats why i said your comments did not pertain to me..its in a rural area i ride and like i said i can go miles without seeng someone. Ill take some pics for you to let you check it out or do a search for Bonne Terre chat dumps or anything like that....Thanks for worrying about my safety though.....

Im the same way and i ride where no one is around and the stuff i ride on you would nto hear a flat anyway. Ill take the chance just like you . With the air blowing past my ear i dont know if I would hear a flat anyway.

BTW Mr. Beanz..the small town i ride in is a far cry from Cali where your at..no one..and i do mean no one rides bikes in this small town. I deleted the first post as not to come off like a a** and keep things civil. Thanks for the re-post though bro!

I listen to music all the time, it's never caused me to drift into other riders. In fact, I'd say that of all the erratic bicyclists I see on the bike path, very few are listening to music. I've noticed that when I listen to music, I ride farther, when I don't listen to music, I ride faster. The dangers of riding with music have been greatly exaggerated. Deaf people ride bicycles every day and live to tell about it.

When I listen to music, I like 'Zeppelin or some old school 70's rock. I also listen to the "Podrunner" podcast. I have an iPhone so my music fades down when an incoming call comes in, I tap a button on my earbuds and answer the call. Totally hands free. When the call is over, the music fades back up.

I also listen to "audio books" as I ride, mostly I'm learning to speak better Spanish. Sometimes if there's a lot of cyclists, I'll pop out one ear bud so I can hear what's going on. Today I rode 22 miles without music, it's fun to hammer hard and listen to your bike and get into your breathing and really feel the Zen of the whole experience. But other times it's nice to crank some Robin Trower and just pedal mindlessly.

You can even get a TV for your bicycle:

Dangerous practice, to be avoided. Safer to hear what is going on around you. One guy who rides with our Sunday insists on listening to music during the rides. We take great pleasure in dropping him because he can't or won't listen to directions or take guidance.

Hey man, I'm not trying to be a jerk. But you seem like a new rider from your posts. Just trying to keep you safe and keep you from learning the hard way. When I read your other thread, you're 330 lbs and not worried about an mtb tire going flat? I worry about it and have had one go at 240lbs.

Besides, on a trail you may miss something else of importance, a chain snap, a broken spoke! All these things can be catasrophic if you miss the warning.

OK, no further comments, you're on your own!

If you look at the time, it was reposted before you edited your post (thank you very much!). How was I to know you were going to edit? I'm not pychic, I just read the warnings in bike and protable music instructions and practice them!

BTW, I didn't take anything you said uncivil. When you start calling me ^$$#^&#& and a *&#^%#& thena *^#&%&, then it's uncivil!

And my typing sucks!

But I would be that EVERY piece of equipment you mention, including the bicycle warns against use while operating a bicycle or vehicle! Hmmm?

You'd lose. My bicycle has no warning about the iPhone nor does my iPhone caution me about riding bicycles. And even if they did, who cares? I don't live my life in compliance with warning labels. This issue has been beaten to death on the Roadie forum, riding with earphones is no big deal.

I'm sure your bike manual says don't operate with earphones. Sure, get into an accident with earphones, I'm sure the roadies in the road forum are going to represent you in court!

OK, I've analyzed your taste in music and it looks pretty good except for the Jimi Hendrix, Jimi Hendrix will cause you to cross chain and often causes creeky noises to come from your Bottom Bracket. Everything else looks good though, you should have no problem.

+ONE: I like to listen to the Mack trucks coming up behind me.

That's terrible! There aint no Tom Jones or Drifters in there!

Like i said earlier, i thank you for the concern for my safety i really do. I will keep the warnings in mind. I dont ride with music in high traffic areas only on a old bike trail that used to be railroad tracks years ago. The ones we should be watching or the people on their cars that text and use the cell while eating and useing the newspapers. I wont ride on the rode for this reason. You wont here me bad mouth you either.

Thanks for the warning about hendrix...i never knew that...lol

More Anthrax!

Nope!! When I ride on the road, I like the hear the cars coming from behind, and when I ride on the Bike Trails, I like to hear the cylist's behind me say, "on your left!" I thought it was a goofy part of cycling culture, but now after 2 organized rides, I really appreciate it.

I never do, the only place I listen to music is the bus, often because there are usually too many things, I don't want to hear, like the folks who have to talk loud enough into s cell phone, that the other party can hear them, without the phone, funny thing is, these conversations are never in English.....

People, who listen to music players when riding a bicycle or jogging, will at some point have a collision, because they are wrapped up in their own little world. It's like with drunk drivers, it always seems that it's the innocent party that ends up getting the ride in the ambulance (or worse).....

No headphones for me. Too dangerous. I went with radio on the handlebars for my commute. I keep it loud enough to hear, but any car will drown it out. A good Kansas wind or a fast downhill will drown it out too. I can also hear the people I ride with complaining they can't hear it.