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your suggestions: I am in the process of building a component list for a Moots Mootour:
with avid road BB-7 brakes. This bike will usuually be pulling an Extrawheel trailer. I'm having the tabs for canti's put on the frame too - in case I want to tour with panniers and have rack mount issues with the disc brakes.
what hubs would make sense for the disc equipped wheels? what would you recommend, and why?
with avid road BB-7 brakes. This bike will usuually be pulling an Extrawheel trailer. I'm having the tabs for canti's put on the frame too - in case I want to tour with panniers and have rack mount issues with the disc brakes.
what hubs would make sense for the disc equipped wheels? what would you recommend, and why?
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I don't have any sugestions for hubs, but rack compatibility isn't an issue.
Super Tourist DX Tubular Rack w/disc mounts. From what I've seen, this has a load limit of about 45#.
Explorer Tubular Rack w/disc Mounts. This one has a limit of 55 pounds. I ordered this one for my Marin Navato that I'm setting up as my commuting rig.
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Super Tourist DX Tubular Rack w/disc mounts. From what I've seen, this has a load limit of about 45#.
Explorer Tubular Rack w/disc Mounts. This one has a limit of 55 pounds. I ordered this one for my Marin Navato that I'm setting up as my commuting rig.
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your suggestions: I am in the process of building a component list for a Moots Mootour:
with avid road BB-7 brakes. This bike will usuually be pulling an Extrawheel trailer. I'm having the tabs for canti's put on the frame too - in case I want to tour with panniers and have rack mount issues with the disc brakes.
what hubs would make sense for the disc equipped wheels? what would you recommend, and why?
with avid road BB-7 brakes. This bike will usuually be pulling an Extrawheel trailer. I'm having the tabs for canti's put on the frame too - in case I want to tour with panniers and have rack mount issues with the disc brakes.
what hubs would make sense for the disc equipped wheels? what would you recommend, and why?
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Shimanos better than all of them put together,except Phils.
I knew something was missing from that picture....I'll bet she shaved it off.
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I didn't even look up info on the bike...
I agree, anything other than Phils, or Chris Kings is like pearls before swine. I don't have any experience with Hope hubs, so no advice there.
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I agree, anything other than Phils, or Chris Kings is like pearls before swine. I don't have any experience with Hope hubs, so no advice there.
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think i like the chris kings, have some on my roubaix. We are checking into whether the mootour can be ordered with 135mm spacing. its a custom built frame, i bet the answer is yes.
what fork should I use with the disc???
what fork should I use with the disc???
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You probably know this, but those BB7 brakes weigh a ton...
This might be one case where building a rear wheel on a tandem axle would make sense. The 145mm, doesn't do that much for spoking angles but it does allow some extra space and to not have a dished rear wheel while running disc brakes. DT is one option, and probably phil and others. Shimano doesn't have a hardened axle, possibly because it isn't all that necesarry but it is a nice to have, I have seen bent axles. Plain bearings as in the DT are a nice feature cassette bearings are not as free turning, massive, and how do you go ceramic? Personally I am going with Phil. XT with hardened axles is a nice cheap option.
This might be one case where building a rear wheel on a tandem axle would make sense. The 145mm, doesn't do that much for spoking angles but it does allow some extra space and to not have a dished rear wheel while running disc brakes. DT is one option, and probably phil and others. Shimano doesn't have a hardened axle, possibly because it isn't all that necesarry but it is a nice to have, I have seen bent axles. Plain bearings as in the DT are a nice feature cassette bearings are not as free turning, massive, and how do you go ceramic? Personally I am going with Phil. XT with hardened axles is a nice cheap option.
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phil or kings...nothing else is close to worthy.
I like the kings best, the machining looks like its out of an f1 car and they come in all kinds of sexy colors. another thing i usually consider an advantage of the kings is the company themselves...except...phil wood is equally as awesome
I like the kings best, the machining looks like its out of an f1 car and they come in all kinds of sexy colors. another thing i usually consider an advantage of the kings is the company themselves...except...phil wood is equally as awesome
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Peterpan1: the weight is worth it. I live in NM, I do some touring with the extrawheel trailer on STEEP forest service roads in the Rockies. the discs are for long steep descents on washed out unmaintained roads. I am a musician and need to protect my hands, which are developing issues from all the hanging on to the brakes while being pushed downhill by the loaded extrawheel trailer (50 pounds including trailer weight).
interesting idea using a tandem axle. why would this (140mm spacing?) be better than the MTB spacing (135mm)??
interesting idea using a tandem axle. why would this (140mm spacing?) be better than the MTB spacing (135mm)??
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phil wood. period.
I like them better for durability than the 'kings I owned. But both are nice- The kings have quicker engagement (more pawls) and lend themselves very well to technical riding. But for touring and dependability the phil wood hubs cannot be beat. They are also completely field serviceable with 5mm allen wrenches. If you want to save a bit of money then get the freewheel version.
I like them better for durability than the 'kings I owned. But both are nice- The kings have quicker engagement (more pawls) and lend themselves very well to technical riding. But for touring and dependability the phil wood hubs cannot be beat. They are also completely field serviceable with 5mm allen wrenches. If you want to save a bit of money then get the freewheel version.
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i have kings on my climbing/descent road bike (a strengthened and lightened roubaix). i think the extra pawls make for smooth downshift going uphill. this bike will be pulling a trailer up gnarley forest service roads. the extra pawls alone may be worth it. for touring, these roads, while not as bad as technical MTB trails, get PRETTY bad, expecially considering you are pulling a trailer. OTOH, these roads dont have TRAFFIC or PEOPLE on them!!!!
thanks for the replies.
thanks for the replies.
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