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Sponsorship for charity on a ride?
I'm planning on going on a 1100km solo tour next year. Initially it was a pure joy-ride, with no other agenda. A leisurely roll north, punctuated by campsites and huge meals. However, upon further discussion with non-riding friends I have noticed that they view this as a near-superhuman feat of endurance.
This got me thinking that I might be able to get sponsored by these people and donate the money to a charity I support. My question to you is, has anyone ever successfully approached any camping/clothing/bike company and asked them to assist you in a venture such as this? Given that this is no longer a holiday, and is now a charitable act, what do you think my chances of success are? Any strategies I should be mindful of?
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This got me thinking that I might be able to get sponsored by these people and donate the money to a charity I support. My question to you is, has anyone ever successfully approached any camping/clothing/bike company and asked them to assist you in a venture such as this? Given that this is no longer a holiday, and is now a charitable act, what do you think my chances of success are? Any strategies I should be mindful of?
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1) 1100 kms is 100 kms shorter than a 1200 km randonnee. While it may be a near-superhuman feat of endurance to your non-riding friends, to the cycling/sports world, it's not all that monumental.
https://www.audax.org.au/public/
https://www.randonneurs.bc.ca/links/links.html
https://www.ultracycling.com/
https://www.rusa.org/
2) If you are going to go the charitable route ... be sure to give every penny you get to the charity. Otherwise it's a scam to get people to pay for your vacation.
3) If you are going to do it, and give every penny to charity, you should also have a website or blog or something where you can assure people that the money is going to the charity ... perhaps setting up a link where people can donate directly to the charity ... and where people can track your progress on the ride.
4) If you're going to get stuff from sponsering companies you'll likely have to be very public in your ride ... visiting places where you're seen, website/blog, etc.. There's no point them giving you a jersey and having you ride quiet country roads and stealth camp or something where that jersey is never seen.
https://www.audax.org.au/public/
https://www.randonneurs.bc.ca/links/links.html
https://www.ultracycling.com/
https://www.rusa.org/
2) If you are going to go the charitable route ... be sure to give every penny you get to the charity. Otherwise it's a scam to get people to pay for your vacation.
3) If you are going to do it, and give every penny to charity, you should also have a website or blog or something where you can assure people that the money is going to the charity ... perhaps setting up a link where people can donate directly to the charity ... and where people can track your progress on the ride.
4) If you're going to get stuff from sponsering companies you'll likely have to be very public in your ride ... visiting places where you're seen, website/blog, etc.. There's no point them giving you a jersey and having you ride quiet country roads and stealth camp or something where that jersey is never seen.
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When I started talking about my plan to cycle in the Himalayas, many friends asked: "Is it for charity??". I was a bit annoyed by that - to me the message was clear, that my trip was regarded as somehow self-indulgent because I wasn't going to be using it as an opportunity to leverage money for a good cause. I really dislike the notion that any of us who have the self-motivation to get off our butts and broaden our horizons, have some kind of responsibility to attach a charitable cause to it.
In my opinion, if you want to perform a charitable act, just make a donation. No fuss, no fanfare, no free t-shirts, just a donation.
In my opinion, if you want to perform a charitable act, just make a donation. No fuss, no fanfare, no free t-shirts, just a donation.
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Of course all of the money go where it's supposed to go, what are you insinuating?
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Well, we've had several people here with grand notions of funding their trip with donations. They'd pay for their trip with the donations, and if there was anything left over, they'd give that to charity, or they'd take half the donations for their trip, and give half to charity, or whatever.
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When I started talking about my plan to cycle in the Himalayas, many friends asked: "Is it for charity??". I was a bit annoyed by that - to me the message was clear, that my trip was regarded as somehow self-indulgent because I wasn't going to be using it as an opportunity to leverage money for a good cause. I really dislike the notion that any of us who have the self-motivation to get off our butts and broaden our horizons, have some kind of responsibility to attach a charitable cause to it.
In my opinion, if you want to perform a charitable act, just make a donation. No fuss, no fanfare, no free t-shirts, just a donation.
In my opinion, if you want to perform a charitable act, just make a donation. No fuss, no fanfare, no free t-shirts, just a donation.
I get the "is it for charity" comment all the time with my randonneuring too, and I also find it annoying for the same reasons you do.
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That said, the easiest, and entirely ethical, way to fundraise is to have a page set up by the non-profit group and all the money go directly to them. An example:
https://www.epilepsyfoundation.org/eC...m?user_id=1370
The tourer, BTW, is a poster on this forum. I donated to the fundraising and escorted Neil on the ride.
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Bike and gear companies hear a lot, and mean a lot, of pitches where some adventure junkie wants to go on some bike ride, mountian climbing, desert crossing, ect... for charity. It this point, nobody wants to hear about it anymore.
Not to say charity isn't a bad thing. It's easy enough to blog about your trip, keep in touch with a local community group, raise support for some small cause you already care about.
But let us be %100 honest here-- people don't really ride bikes across China or travel to the South Pole to stop breast cancer. They do it for the adventure of it, for personal reasons.
Not to say charity isn't a bad thing. It's easy enough to blog about your trip, keep in touch with a local community group, raise support for some small cause you already care about.
But let us be %100 honest here-- people don't really ride bikes across China or travel to the South Pole to stop breast cancer. They do it for the adventure of it, for personal reasons.
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When I started talking about my plan to cycle in the Himalayas, many friends asked: "Is it for charity??". I was a bit annoyed by that - to me the message was clear, that my trip was regarded as somehow self-indulgent because I wasn't going to be using it as an opportunity to leverage money for a good cause. I really dislike the notion that any of us who have the self-motivation to get off our butts and broaden our horizons, have some kind of responsibility to attach a charitable cause to it.
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If you want to ride, ride.
Charity fund raising can become mind-numbing. Hell we get asked by the cashier at the supermarket: "wanna give $$ for cancer?"
We tell e'm 'no thank you, we both are cancer survivors' (which we are).
We have donated/ridden to help charities/causes but we don't hit up folks for donations.
Don't be shocked if manufacturers are not interested in supporting your efforts for free stuff.
Charity fund raising can become mind-numbing. Hell we get asked by the cashier at the supermarket: "wanna give $$ for cancer?"
We tell e'm 'no thank you, we both are cancer survivors' (which we are).
We have donated/ridden to help charities/causes but we don't hit up folks for donations.
Don't be shocked if manufacturers are not interested in supporting your efforts for free stuff.
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Well, we've had several people here with grand notions of funding their trip with donations. They'd pay for their trip with the donations, and if there was anything left over, they'd give that to charity, or they'd take half the donations for their trip, and give half to charity, or whatever.
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Okay, I'll admit this. I did have a chance for a sponsorship during my SC to TX tour. When my story got put into the Columbia newspaper, I got an email from someone asking me if I would want to sell my story to a large department store and a spot in a Paul Harvey commercial (you figure out which company yet??) just to allow them to mention I was riding their department store bike during my tour. It was tempting but I refused it. I knew if I did make such a deal, I would be under huge pressure to continue my tour and lose the focus of why I was really doing it. The Columbia State newspaper even mentioned that I was doing this tour as a dream, not as for charity.
Okay, the company was Walmart.
Okay, the company was Walmart.
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While on the subject, the latest issue (September 2008) of Adventure Cyclist has a cover story on "riding for a cause."
https://www.adventurecycling.org/features/index.cfm
https://www.adventurecycling.org/features/index.cfm
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Okay, I'll admit this. I did have a chance for a sponsorship during my SC to TX tour. When my story got put into the Columbia newspaper, I got an email from someone asking me if I would want to sell my story to a large department store and a spot in a Paul Harvey commercial (you figure out which company yet??) just to allow them to mention I was riding their department store bike during my tour. It was tempting but I refused it. I knew if I did make such a deal, I would be under huge pressure to continue my tour and lose the focus of why I was really doing it. The Columbia State newspaper even mentioned that I was doing this tour as a dream, not as for charity.
Okay, the company was Walmart.
Okay, the company was Walmart.
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Okay, firstly, I was going to go on tour and pay for it myself. That much has not changed. The way people are reacting, the infamous 'near-superhuman feat', made me think that people might want to sponsor me.
I wanted to raise money for Schizophrenia research and advocacy. I am a mental health nurse, and so this is an important issue for me. My expenses are not to be taken out of the money raised.
I thought that this might be a project companies might want to be associated with and as such I might get some free stuff to assist me in this venture. No harm, no foul.
No hidden agendas, no subterfuge, no Machiavellian nonsense.
That's it.
I wanted to raise money for Schizophrenia research and advocacy. I am a mental health nurse, and so this is an important issue for me. My expenses are not to be taken out of the money raised.
I thought that this might be a project companies might want to be associated with and as such I might get some free stuff to assist me in this venture. No harm, no foul.
No hidden agendas, no subterfuge, no Machiavellian nonsense.
That's it.
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Providing a link from your website to the charity site is commendable. If the attention your trip generates benefits a good cause, then more power to you!
Charity riders often talk up the charity aspect of their trip to equipment makers, hotels, campgrounds and individuals in the hopes of getting free stuff or cash donations. While this is certainly not Machiavellian, it is unseemly.
Many of us have met folks on the road who were doing this without shame, and we have been ashamed for them. The group pedaling between complimentary 4-star hotels in Asia while raising funds for impoverished African orphans springs to mind as an example of how otherwise rational people can go overboard with "it doesn't hurt to ask".
While you may not ask for complimentary 4-star accommodations, when you think about it, it really is not all that different from requesting a complimentary set of $300 panniers.
IMO, the reason the idea gets such a negative reception here is that it cheapens the accomplishments of those of us who have done or plan to do a trip as a personal adventure. Implied beneath the surface is the belief that a personal adventure is not enough, even through we all know that a personal adventure is what we are all after. The charity is the smokescreen that makes it more palatable to others, especially future employers... "I spent six months cycling across the U.S. for Cancer Research".
Finally, many of us have met charity riders for whom it was not about the charity. It was about the free stuff.
Charity riders often talk up the charity aspect of their trip to equipment makers, hotels, campgrounds and individuals in the hopes of getting free stuff or cash donations. While this is certainly not Machiavellian, it is unseemly.
Many of us have met folks on the road who were doing this without shame, and we have been ashamed for them. The group pedaling between complimentary 4-star hotels in Asia while raising funds for impoverished African orphans springs to mind as an example of how otherwise rational people can go overboard with "it doesn't hurt to ask".
While you may not ask for complimentary 4-star accommodations, when you think about it, it really is not all that different from requesting a complimentary set of $300 panniers.
IMO, the reason the idea gets such a negative reception here is that it cheapens the accomplishments of those of us who have done or plan to do a trip as a personal adventure. Implied beneath the surface is the belief that a personal adventure is not enough, even through we all know that a personal adventure is what we are all after. The charity is the smokescreen that makes it more palatable to others, especially future employers... "I spent six months cycling across the U.S. for Cancer Research".
Finally, many of us have met charity riders for whom it was not about the charity. It was about the free stuff.
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My personal opinion is set up a blog and put a link to your favorite charity. Throw in a comment about making a donation and that the link goes directly to the charity, and you are not in the loop as far as funds go.
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if you want to ride for charity, RIDE FOR CHARITY! don't let people on here discourage you.
i'm doing the atlantic to pacific ride in a year and a half, but it's purely for my self enjoyment, it's just something i want to do.
my thought is that if you ride for a cause, then it immediately becomes a responsibility, and not an adventure
that's why i don't juggle for money : )
i'm doing the atlantic to pacific ride in a year and a half, but it's purely for my self enjoyment, it's just something i want to do.
my thought is that if you ride for a cause, then it immediately becomes a responsibility, and not an adventure
that's why i don't juggle for money : )
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As for you personally, you might get a waterbottle, T-shirt, or pen out of the companies you approach. Companies tend to have a stockpile of such things for such requests.
If you want more than that, you'd better come up with an idea of what you can do for them ... such as writing up an endorsement for products which they can use in advertizing, or going to certain places on your route (i.e. town fairs or something) where you can promote their products, etc.
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When I started talking about my plan to cycle in the Himalayas, many friends asked: "Is it for charity??". I was a bit annoyed by that - to me the message was clear, that my trip was regarded as somehow self-indulgent because I wasn't going to be using it as an opportunity to leverage money for a good cause. I really dislike the notion that any of us who have the self-motivation to get off our butts and broaden our horizons, have some kind of responsibility to attach a charitable cause to it.
In my opinion, if you want to perform a charitable act, just make a donation. No fuss, no fanfare, no free t-shirts, just a donation.
In my opinion, if you want to perform a charitable act, just make a donation. No fuss, no fanfare, no free t-shirts, just a donation.
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"Given that this is no longer a holiday, and is now a charitable act, what do you think my chances of success are? Any strategies I should be mindful of?"
Really? Just raising some money from concerned friends, doesn't really affect what happen on the road. I think you could raise some money from people you are talking this up to. Getting a lot of stuff from companies is an extreme long shot, but it depends on the circumstances. Normally a few thousand dollars of gear should be bringing that much targeted publicity. Broad publicity may not result in one more sale for a gear company. If you normally attract a lot of attention in what you do, and some people are just naturals, then people might pitch in to help you. But an 1100 mile trip is no big deal to the kind of people equipment companies sponsor. There is at least one guy with something like 160 000 miles toodling around out there.
I agree with the whole idea that feeling one needs to justify touring with charity is silly, but anything you can use to advance a cause in an appropriate maner is admirable.
Really? Just raising some money from concerned friends, doesn't really affect what happen on the road. I think you could raise some money from people you are talking this up to. Getting a lot of stuff from companies is an extreme long shot, but it depends on the circumstances. Normally a few thousand dollars of gear should be bringing that much targeted publicity. Broad publicity may not result in one more sale for a gear company. If you normally attract a lot of attention in what you do, and some people are just naturals, then people might pitch in to help you. But an 1100 mile trip is no big deal to the kind of people equipment companies sponsor. There is at least one guy with something like 160 000 miles toodling around out there.
I agree with the whole idea that feeling one needs to justify touring with charity is silly, but anything you can use to advance a cause in an appropriate maner is admirable.
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If you normally attract a lot of attention in what you do, and some people are just naturals, then people might pitch in to help you. But an 1100 mile trip is no big deal to the kind of people equipment companies sponsor. There is at least one guy with something like 160 000 miles toodling around out there.
A guy where my brother works supposedly raised $20k for cancer research on his XC tour.
Personally I don't get it and see it as "donate money because I am going on vacation", but some like those mentioned above have raised a good bit of money.
On TA tour we met folks who paid for their trips at least in part by "raising money for charity". I personally think that that isn't what touring is about. I would rather people see my tour as something that is fun to do and not something that is to be endured to raise money for charity. If a trip did anything other than entertain me, I think that being an ambassador for cycling is enough.
Oh and yes I really resent the "are you doing this for charity" comments.
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It's interesting to me that on my second tour from Pittsburgh to DC, I never was asked the "charity" question. Neil F. and I were asked a few times on the first tour, but that might have been prompted by the signs we had on the bikes. Folks on the GAP and C & O see bike tourists all the time, so bike touring is a 'normal' activity to them.
In contrast, on our Christmas tour in Eastern PA last year, Neil and I were asked a couple of times what cause we were raising money for. (We weren't.) People don't see many bike tourists in the area, it seems.
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