dadsmith

I am looking into converting an older (70s-80s) road bike, and was wondering if someone could help me out with a list of older brands that would make a good fixie. I've found a couple of frames on craigslist, but according to some other posts, Free Spirit, and Galaxy are very cheap bikes. I'm looking to go pretty cheap, but still want a decent frame (under $70 or so). I've read that Schwinn WorldSport frames aren't bad, and I've read a lot about Peugeots. Any others?

wearyourtruth

steer clear of anything with one-piece bottom brackets. those are a hallmark of a cheapo frame. also, while peugeots can be good frames, they are french threaded, which makes replacement parts hard to come by.

ZiP0082

In terms of 80s steel road bike frames that may make decent conversions, I like these:

Nishiki
Takara
Schwinn (but not the high-tensile ones like the Varsity)
Bianchi
Lotus
Centurian

Personally I think Japanese and Italian are better than American and French in terms of budget 1980s conversions.

rotharpunc

Japanese and higher end older Schwinns are good places to look, I picked up an old Columbus framed Tempo the other day for $30. old Treks can still be had for good deals as well. Look for a chromoly frame.

ryan.

I would throw Panasonic into the mix as well. I've owned a few over the years (CL finds) and loved them.

Ryan

j.walker

what about a bridgestone?

dadsmith

Thanks for all the quick replies. Also, would craigslist be the best place to find a good frame? I live in the Denver/Boulder CO area. Anyone had any luck finding frames elsewhere?

rotharpunc

thrift stores and garage sales. police auctions and flea markets. CL and Ebay are usually going to be more expensive.

dayvan cowboy

from what i understand those are solid.

fuzz2050

most brands made good bikes and cheap hi ten bikes as well. It's a better idea to look at the dropouts, a bike with forged dropouts

Will usually be made with much better tubing than one with stamped dropouts

It's an easier test than trying to figure out what tubing went into a rattle-canned frame.

carleton

I really don't understand this. If you are going to take an apple and convert it to an orange, then why not just start with an orange???

Conversions are made when people already have a bike but just want it to be a fixed gear. Since you have nothing but cash, why not just try to get a fixed specific bike/frame to start with?

There are some really nice track/fixed specific frames out there, old and new.

EVERYBODY wants it to be cheap. We know. But, whatever you want, they know you want it and will charge you accordingly. Consider it a fanboy tax.

Lastly, just because it's old doesn't mean it's good. Bike manufacturers back then sometimes made bullsh*t just like they do now. The messed up part is that BS from 20 years ago is pretty bad.

steppinthefunk 

Excelent advice right there.

fuzz2050

Thank you, I've contemplated writing a 'how to identify a nice bike', but I realize it would end up being a 'how to find a nice bike to steal'

The dropouts are almost always a dead giveaway though, and it's sufficiently shady to stare at someones dropouts that I don't fear it being misused.

dadsmith

What's an easy way to spot a one piece bottom bracket?
Carleton, it doesn't really matter what kind of bike it is, I've just found that the older bikes tend to be the cheapest, and that's what I'm going for. I understand it's easier to go buy a pista for $600 than find an old ten speed for $40, but that's not what I'm trying to do.

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patbateman

+1 for old treks.

I have an 87, its reynolds 531 tubing
Picking up an 82 today for $50, I haven't checked yet, but most trek frames from back then were columbus or reynolds 531

And those frames are some of the most comfortable frames you'll find

rotharpunc

www.vintage-trek.com

caloso

I have an 89 Trek 660 that I built up as a fixed gear. Wonderful bike but with one tiny caveat. Later Trek steel frames (I'm guessing mid-80s) have house forged dropouts that are probably 3mm shorter than the classic Cinelli dropouts pictured above. Which means you are slightly limited in your gearing choices. Not a huge deal, but if you're using a flip-flop hub, you may be able to have only 1 or 2 tooth differences.

Edit:

Here's a picture:

Scratcher33

Definitely a good way to get an idea, but it can deceive you. I ride a Soma Rush which does not have forged drop outs. The Rush is by no means the best frame in the world, but it is still a high quality steel and makes for a good foundation for a fixed gear. Just saying that - like with every rule - this one has exceptions too.

sp00ki

terrible question.

this is like asking to recommend a car manufacturer because you're getting into auto racing. it's not nearly as much about ford vs honda as it is the type of car...

JohnDThompson 

Or Ishiwata.

patbateman

Haha funny you should say that since the bike I just picked up is in fact Ishiwata tubing

Balefire

Thirded. I just picked up a Norco frame (more common up in Canada I think) with quadruple butted ishiwata tubing for cheap.