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Old 03-19-09 | 03:02 PM
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Beloit is looking to be a fun day...

https://www.weather.com/weather/wxdet...L1102?dayNum=9

Oh goodie
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Old 03-19-09 | 05:04 PM
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htfu?
But if I remember I raced in short sleeves there last year.
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Old 03-19-09 | 05:09 PM
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Tough to be an early starter but the afternoon shouldn't be too bad.
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Forecasts at this range are about 99% worthless anyway.
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Old 03-19-09 | 07:35 PM
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Forecasts at this range are about 99% worthless anyway.
I thought that there was a slim chance that since they are calling for rain 10 days from now, that maybe it'll be 70 and sunny.
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Old 03-19-09 | 08:13 PM
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Why is there a race in Beloit?!?
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Why is there a race in Beloit?!?
Because there's a race track there.
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Originally Posted by recursive
Because there's a race track there.
Actually...South Beloit. It's in Illinois.
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Because there's a race track there.
And it's not like the streets of Chicago. It is completely pothole free and smooth like a babies behind.
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This is a crit on an oval track? A track race on a UCI standard bit of tarmac? what?
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Old 03-20-09 | 07:28 AM
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This is a crit on an oval track? A track race on a UCI standard bit of tarmac? what?
Do you need some assistance?

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you're racing at blackhawk farms? cool! i spectated at a driving school there once, neat track. Saw a guy spin in front of the bleacher i was sitting in and bounce up onto a tire wall...
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Old 03-20-09 | 09:21 AM
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Tis only my 2nd race...i had to enter a 4/5...my goal is to not die. If i finish ahead or with a 4, i'm happy. If i finish in front of many 5's, i'm happy.
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Tis only my 2nd race...i had to enter a 4/5...my goal is to not die. If i finish ahead or with a 4, i'm happy. If i finish in front of many 5's, i'm happy.
If you can hang longer than one lap with the field than you've already done better than me last year.
It was fast and furious. First lap my avg. was in the 26mph.
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Old 03-20-09 | 09:31 AM
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If you can hang longer than one lap with the field than you've already done better than me last year.
It was fast and furious. First lap my avg. was in the 26mph.
My first race came a few weeks after finals/graduation and i hadn't really ridden. According to bikejournal, which i think i had been keeping up to date, i had ridden a grand total of 160 miles on the road before the Winfield Twlight Crit. I finished 25th out of 32, i missed getting lapped by 1 lap. All in all, given the circumstances, i was happy with that.

I also learned that if you're huffing and puffing, and you miss the break, don't try and get it...no one will come, and you will get slung OTB faster than you think.
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Old 03-20-09 | 09:57 AM
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The twilight crit was fun too. Nasty little incline on the back stretch it was. At that race I was actually able to hang until the last lap where I was dropped at that stupid incline.
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Old 03-20-09 | 09:59 AM
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And it's not like the streets of Chicago. It is completely pothole free and smooth like a babies behind.
Blackhawk Farms? A smooth track?

Compared to streets it is smooth. Small bumps on the street are huge bumps on a race track. As a racetrtack, Blackhawk is a bumpy track. Car teams used to do testing at the track for their street (bumpy) course set ups (Michael Andretti is rumored to have done a 49 second lap time). I have been racing (motorcycles) at Blackhawk since 1991. The fast race line tends to avoid the larger bumps. Cars tear up the track over time. I actually don't like the layout, one of my least favorite tracks.

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Blackhawk Farms? A smooth track?

Perhaps compared to streets it is smooth. Compared to race tracks, Blackhawk is a bumpy track. But things are different when riding a motorcycle doing times in the 1:18 range (about 88mph ave). I have been racing at Blackhawk since 1991. Cars tear up the track over time. I actually don't like the layout, one of my least favorite tracks.
Compared to Hallett Raceway in OK, BHF is smooth.
I've raced my car on BHF and Hallett. Hallett had some nasty bumps and turtles would cross the track as well. I've never raced on Road America, so I can't tell.
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Compared to Hallett Raceway in OK, BHF is smooth.
I've raced my car on BHF and Hallett. Hallett had some nasty bumps and turtles would cross the track as well. I've never raced on Road America, so I can't tell.
Blackhawk is better since the last repave, but it is getting worse (again). Blackhawk has turtles also, deer and other small critters too. Never been to Hallett so can't compare. Did you drive on Blackhawk with the cement patches?

Road America is smoother, but the pavement has been torn up in some corners making them interesting on 2 wheels. I have also ridden the track on a bicycle (Tour de Road America in August). It actually has elevation changes. One of my favorite tracks.

Worst part of Blackhawk is the layout, it is flat, boring and no flow to it.

Road America, VIR, Barber, Grattan, JenningsGP (motorcycle only) are some tracks with great layouts.
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Old 03-20-09 | 10:31 AM
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Blackhawk is better since the last repave, but it is getting worse (again). Blackhawk has turtles also, deer and other small critters too.
Deer you say?
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Timmy:
Which 4/5race you doing? 8:15 start of the later one?
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Old 03-20-09 | 10:57 AM
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Which 4/5race you doing? 8:15 start of the later one?
The later one.
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Old 03-21-09 | 09:01 AM
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I thought that there was a slim chance that since they are calling for rain 10 days from now, that maybe it'll be 70 and sunny.
It's already working. Rain is no longer in the forecast...yet.
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Old 03-27-09 | 11:52 AM
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It's already working. Rain is no longer in the forecast...yet.
Looks like up to an inch of the wet and slushy is in the cards tomorrow. A day for the hardasses.

Who's in?

I'll be there early to watch that first Cat 4/5 race. Then I'm in the 4/5's and the old guy 4/5's. Possibly 3/4's if I get frisky, but I doubt it right now.
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