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03-20-09, 07:23 PM
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A little good press for a cyclist.
Knock-out punch of robbery suspect turns deadly
Willoughby Mariano | Sentinel Staff Writer
6:01 PM EDT, March 20, 2009
A knock-out punch from what police described as a "good Samaritan" defending a wheelchair-bound man during a robbery turned out to be fatal, an Orlando police spokesman said today.
Witnesses said Timothy Nickerson, 40, was in his wheelchair March 5 about 12:20 a.m. near West Washington Street and North Terry Avenue when Patrick Erwin Trice, 47, took his money and knocked him down, Sgt. Barbara Jones said.
A passing bicyclist noticed the attack, punched Trice, then pedaled away. Trice fell to the ground, and an officer found him unconscious and bleeding from the mouth and nose, Jones said. The money was in Trice's right hand. He was taken to Florida Hospital Orlando and died two days later.
Police asked the public for help identifying the man who delivered the punch and eventually found him. Jones did not release his name, saying his identity is part of an open investigation.
The death appears to be justifiable homicide, Jones said, but there has been no official ruling. The case is being forwarded to the Orange-Osceola State Attorney's Office for review.
Knock-out punch of robbery suspect turns deadly
Willoughby Mariano | Sentinel Staff Writer
6:01 PM EDT, March 20, 2009
A knock-out punch from what police described as a "good Samaritan" defending a wheelchair-bound man during a robbery turned out to be fatal, an Orlando police spokesman said today.
Witnesses said Timothy Nickerson, 40, was in his wheelchair March 5 about 12:20 a.m. near West Washington Street and North Terry Avenue when Patrick Erwin Trice, 47, took his money and knocked him down, Sgt. Barbara Jones said.
A passing bicyclist noticed the attack, punched Trice, then pedaled away. Trice fell to the ground, and an officer found him unconscious and bleeding from the mouth and nose, Jones said. The money was in Trice's right hand. He was taken to Florida Hospital Orlando and died two days later.
Police asked the public for help identifying the man who delivered the punch and eventually found him. Jones did not release his name, saying his identity is part of an open investigation.
The death appears to be justifiable homicide, Jones said, but there has been no official ruling. The case is being forwarded to the Orange-Osceola State Attorney's Office for review.
03-20-09, 07:30 PM
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wow.
don't mess with the biker, eh?
don't mess with the biker, eh?
03-21-09, 06:29 AM
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That kind of sucks for the biker. I'm sure he didn't mean to kill the guy, but now he'll have that hanging over his head for the rest of his life.
03-21-09, 06:38 AM
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If I had ever killed or seriously injured an innocent victim, I would indeed "have that hanging over [my] head for the rest of [my] life." However, I would feel far less remorse under the scenario cited, a justifiable accidental homicide in which I was valiantly protecting an innocent victim.
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03-21-09, 03:43 PM
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If I had ever killed or seriously injured an innocent victim, I would indeed "have that hanging over [my] head for the rest of [my] life." However, I would feel far less remorse under the scenario cited, a justifiable accidental homicide in which I was valiantly protecting an innocent victim.
03-21-09, 05:02 PM
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If I killed such vermin, with a punch, I'd be damn proud of myself!!!!
Feel good story of the day.
Feel good story of the day.
03-21-09, 06:21 PM
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That's something that I'd be proud to have hanging over my head for the rest of my life. Some people need to be taken out. A lot of people, actually.
03-22-09, 02:43 PM
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03-22-09, 05:27 PM
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03-22-09, 06:33 PM
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I've always felt stealing a couple bucks and knocking someone out of a wheelchair definitely deserves the death penalty... 
03-22-09, 07:26 PM
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I agree that street vengeance isn't the answer, but that's not really what happened here. The cyclist stepped in and defended the guy with his fists and accidentally killed him. Whether or not he 'deserved' it is a judgment call, but if I were in the same situation and accidentally killed a guy while he was robbing somebody who was handicapped, I certainly wouldn't lose any sleep over it.
03-22-09, 07:39 PM
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It is a stange report. The bicyclist punches the guy, then rides away without helping the victim get up or giving the victim back his money? odd.
03-22-09, 10:12 PM
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Cyclist probably realized he did a lot more damage than he intended and got panicked.
03-23-09, 10:42 AM
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What you guys are neglecting here is that the robber obviously did not wear a helmet.
03-23-09, 12:14 PM
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My best friend is a vet. He has killed people who were trying, actively, to kill him and he has that hanging over his head to no small effect.
Sometimes you have to fight. Sometimes people die, but armchair heroics are pretty empty. I have no respect for a guy who robs someone and pushes over his wheelchair, but if I killed him in retaliation, I don't think I'd be pumping my fist in the air, shouting, "Hell, yeah!"
The robber may have deserved the retaliation, but death? I feel sorry for the Good Samaritan. Good on him for trying to do the right thing, though. I hope he suffers no legal problems from this.
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Sometimes you have to fight. Sometimes people die, but armchair heroics are pretty empty. I have no respect for a guy who robs someone and pushes over his wheelchair, but if I killed him in retaliation, I don't think I'd be pumping my fist in the air, shouting, "Hell, yeah!"
The robber may have deserved the retaliation, but death? I feel sorry for the Good Samaritan. Good on him for trying to do the right thing, though. I hope he suffers no legal problems from this.
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03-23-09, 12:56 PM
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A little good press for a cyclist.
A passing bicyclist noticed the attack, punched Trice, then pedaled away. Trice fell to the ground, and an officer found him unconscious and bleeding from the mouth and nose, Jones said. The money was in Trice's right hand. He was taken to Florida Hospital Orlando and died two days later...
A passing bicyclist noticed the attack, punched Trice, then pedaled away. Trice fell to the ground, and an officer found him unconscious and bleeding from the mouth and nose, Jones said. The money was in Trice's right hand. He was taken to Florida Hospital Orlando and died two days later...
Sounds like Trice should have been wearing a helmet.
03-29-09, 03:47 AM
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Go back to your armchair, commando.
03-29-09, 06:33 AM
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Another worthless pile of poop off the streets. Good job!
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I always enjoy the comments of criminals activists like you.
03-29-09, 08:02 AM
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In other news, AnS crowd up in arms over draconian ticketing of cyclists who run traffic lights
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03-29-09, 08:12 AM
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The dude has a mean punch. I thought cyclists didn't do much weight lifting.. Mixed feelings.. Robbing a wheel chair victim is done by scum... The rider should have been wearing generic lycra and shades, plus a helmet. They say we all look alike..
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