An amazing new bike invention - clipless & cleatless pedals
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An amazing new bike invention - clipless & cleatless pedals
Thought you all should know about these new-fangled pedals I started using on my commuter today....so far, so good.
First, some background. As well all know, all pedals originally had toe clips on them. That's what I started riding on my first "serious" bike, back in my 20's, along with some good 'ol Detto shoes.In the early 90's, I switched to clipless pedals -- first, some SPD's with Shimano shoes, then upgraded to SPD's with Sidis. However, I've always had some "hotfoot" problems, and a year ago I got a pair of Look Keos, and a new set of Sidi road shoes. So now I rotate among 5 pairs of shoes, and two styles of pedals across 4 bikes.
Still suffering from "hot foot" problems on longer rides, I decided I needed to find something to give my feet a break for the 60 to 100 miles a week I do commuting. Then I heard about this new invention - pedals that have no toe clips, and no cleats at all. I don't know what you call them, but some of them look like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Wellgo-Alloy-Q...5304189&sr=1-9
Or others like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Wellgo-Comfort...304249&sr=1-43
Though I got some of these:
https://www.amazon.com/MKS-Lambda-Pla...5304298&sr=1-1
An amazing thing about this new invention is that you can ride your bike with regular shoes! Imagine that -- you just jump on the bike with tennis shoes, and just pedal away. When you get to your destination, you can walk like a regular person, instead of waddling like a duck! I can't believe it took so long for them to invent a pedal that can be ridden without special cycling shoes.
So far, I have only ridden one day of commuting on these, and it was a revelation. First time I've ridden without special cycling shoes in more than 30 years. These types of pedals are *so new* that even though I must have seen another 100 bikers out today commuting, I was the only one using these pedals. I must be the only person in Seattle to have ever heard of these pedals. If only there was a name for them - I guess I will just call them "clipless/cleatless" pedals since they have no toe clips, no cleats.
Progress is amazing...
First, some background. As well all know, all pedals originally had toe clips on them. That's what I started riding on my first "serious" bike, back in my 20's, along with some good 'ol Detto shoes.In the early 90's, I switched to clipless pedals -- first, some SPD's with Shimano shoes, then upgraded to SPD's with Sidis. However, I've always had some "hotfoot" problems, and a year ago I got a pair of Look Keos, and a new set of Sidi road shoes. So now I rotate among 5 pairs of shoes, and two styles of pedals across 4 bikes.
Still suffering from "hot foot" problems on longer rides, I decided I needed to find something to give my feet a break for the 60 to 100 miles a week I do commuting. Then I heard about this new invention - pedals that have no toe clips, and no cleats at all. I don't know what you call them, but some of them look like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Wellgo-Alloy-Q...5304189&sr=1-9
Or others like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Wellgo-Comfort...304249&sr=1-43
Though I got some of these:
https://www.amazon.com/MKS-Lambda-Pla...5304298&sr=1-1
An amazing thing about this new invention is that you can ride your bike with regular shoes! Imagine that -- you just jump on the bike with tennis shoes, and just pedal away. When you get to your destination, you can walk like a regular person, instead of waddling like a duck! I can't believe it took so long for them to invent a pedal that can be ridden without special cycling shoes.
So far, I have only ridden one day of commuting on these, and it was a revelation. First time I've ridden without special cycling shoes in more than 30 years. These types of pedals are *so new* that even though I must have seen another 100 bikers out today commuting, I was the only one using these pedals. I must be the only person in Seattle to have ever heard of these pedals. If only there was a name for them - I guess I will just call them "clipless/cleatless" pedals since they have no toe clips, no cleats.
Progress is amazing...
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Amazing...
I run some mks 1000 pedals on my touring bike... shoes, sandals, boots... it does not matter.
I run some mks 1000 pedals on my touring bike... shoes, sandals, boots... it does not matter.
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They are nice pedals but keep in mind your hammies and glutes are shrinking whilst your quads are getting bigger and tired from doing all the work.
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This looks like the beginings of a reasonable platform upon which to build a campaign.
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Whatever will they think of next???
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BengeBoy, you kill me! I rejected toe clips decades ago, although I've tried several times to learn to like them - mostly because I thought there was something wrong with me and I must not be a serious biker if I didn't use them. But each time ended with a crash where I cursed the stupid things and took them off as soon as I got home.
I've been riding clipless/cleatless pedals for years.
Now I'm toying with the idea of trying clipless pedals. Same thing - because everyone swears by them and there must be something wrong with me and I'm not a serious rider if I don't use them. I almost bought some last week, but the minivan broke and I needed to conserve money.
If someone doesn't talk me out of it, I may have some Keos as early as next month. Maybe I'll like them. Maybe I'll finally be able to reject them based on experience, rather than because I'm odd. But if I do it will be a lot more expensive experiment than simple clips and straps. (I still have several pairs in boxes somewhere. Maybe they're collectors' items on Ebay.....)
I've been riding clipless/cleatless pedals for years.
Now I'm toying with the idea of trying clipless pedals. Same thing - because everyone swears by them and there must be something wrong with me and I'm not a serious rider if I don't use them. I almost bought some last week, but the minivan broke and I needed to conserve money.
If someone doesn't talk me out of it, I may have some Keos as early as next month. Maybe I'll like them. Maybe I'll finally be able to reject them based on experience, rather than because I'm odd. But if I do it will be a lot more expensive experiment than simple clips and straps. (I still have several pairs in boxes somewhere. Maybe they're collectors' items on Ebay.....)
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What about the risk of your foot slipping off the pedal, or worse, going into your front wheel? I wear cycling shoes on all of my longer rides and street shoes for some of my short transportation rides, but I am always glad to have my old school toeclips and straps. I adjust the straps just loose enough to permit me to yank me feet out of the pedals. I have been riding this way for 100k miles / 40 years.
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What about the risk of your foot slipping off the pedal, or worse, going into your front wheel? I wear cycling shoes on all of my longer rides and street shoes for some of my short transportation rides, but I am always glad to have my old school toeclips and straps. I adjust the straps just loose enough to permit me to yank me feet out of the pedals. I have been riding this way for 100k miles / 40 years.
I have 10's of thousands of miles in toe clips.
I have maybe 20,000 miles on clipless pedals (and not a single fall!).
So venturing into clipless/cleatless land seems like a big risk to me; scary new technology and all.
So far (using them for a second day), I still have all my toes. The models I bought were designed by Rivendell (for MKS) to be super grippy, and they seem to be so.
I have to add that getting ready in the morning for my commute is now much simpler. Before, it's getting everything packed, get dressed, eat breakfast, deal with the kids, put on shoes last so I don't scratch the floors of my house w/my SPD cleats.
Now, I can just get dressed (including shoes), and run around the house taking care of stuff, and then jump on the bike and go. They must have spent *years* figuring out how to engineer a pedal that can be used with normal shoes -- wonder if Nike secretly funded the research.
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I've never used clips or special cycling shoes, but I'm getting Freddier and Freddier as I get older.
Does anyone have anything to say about Powergrips? Their simplicity tempts me.
see https://www.bikeforums.net/winter-cycling/273365-power-grips.html
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Does anyone have anything to say about Powergrips? Their simplicity tempts me.
see https://www.bikeforums.net/winter-cycling/273365-power-grips.html
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I've never used clips or special cycling shoes, but I'm getting Freddier and Freddier as I get older.
Does anyone have anything to say about Powergrips? Their simplicity tempts me.
see https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=273365
Kevin
Does anyone have anything to say about Powergrips? Their simplicity tempts me.
see https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=273365
Kevin
Now these platform pedals-I just can't use them. Mainly because with SPD's my feet are held onto the pedals and with platforms my feet keep shifting around. Main problem is that as soon as I put pressure on- I start lifting up on the pedal- and platforms don't work that way.
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I use a lot of different kinds of pedals, including some of these amazing new type. They are all good for some things and not so good for other things. Variety is the spice of life.
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Clearly a typo, but I fixed it for you.
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I've never used clips or special cycling shoes, but I'm getting Freddier and Freddier as I get older.
Does anyone have anything to say about Powergrips? Their simplicity tempts me.
see https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=273365
Kevin
Does anyone have anything to say about Powergrips? Their simplicity tempts me.
see https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=273365
Kevin
I recommend them highly.
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How about threading both pedals in the same direction so that they are interchangeable.
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I saw an ad for a new bike with something called a "coaster brake."
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They already do that with automotive lug bolts (lug nuts for all of you who don't drive VW/Audi cars), which is why it is somewhat more common for a left side wheel to come loose. Pontiac and a few others experimented briefly with left-threaded bolts/nuts/studs on the left side of the car, but too many folks were shearing them off by turning them the wrong way.
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I have to add that getting ready in the morning for my commute is now much simpler. Before, it's getting everything packed, get dressed, eat breakfast, deal with the kids, put on shoes last so I don't scratch the floors of my house w/my SPD cleats.
Now, I can just get dressed (including shoes), and run around the house taking care of stuff, and then jump on the bike and go.
I have to add that getting ready in the morning for my commute is now much simpler. Before, it's getting everything packed, get dressed, eat breakfast, deal with the kids, put on shoes last so I don't scratch the floors of my house w/my SPD cleats.
Now, I can just get dressed (including shoes), and run around the house taking care of stuff, and then jump on the bike and go.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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What about the risk of your foot slipping off the pedal, or worse, going into your front wheel? I wear cycling shoes on all of my longer rides and street shoes for some of my short transportation rides, but I am always glad to have my old school toeclips and straps. I adjust the straps just loose enough to permit me to yank me feet out of the pedals. I have been riding this way for 100k miles / 40 years.
This thread is making me think maybe I should stick with my clipless/cleatless setup. It's cutting edge technology!
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They already do that with automotive lug bolts (lug nuts for all of you who don't drive VW/Audi cars), which is why it is somewhat more common for a left side wheel to come loose. Pontiac and a few others experimented briefly with left-threaded bolts/nuts/studs on the left side of the car, but too many folks were shearing them off by turning them the wrong way.