help me evaluate a 1994 Giant CFR-1
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help me evaluate a 1994 Giant CFR-1
I rode one of these after work. Dude wants 325 for it. I think it's overpriced but what does the forum say?
It rode nicely, shifts fine, no wobbles, braked ok. the owner is a guy that resells bikes and sounds like he knows his stuff. he said the bike is just like it came from giant in 94.
now, this is the bad i noticed: the tires don't match but appear to have decent tread. there are nicks and scratches everywhere and the paint is faded. the brake handles (risers?) have deep gouges in the sides. its got some cheap rattrap pedals on it.
What does the forum think the bike is worth? If anyone needs more info I can try and get it.
Thanks!
Brett
It rode nicely, shifts fine, no wobbles, braked ok. the owner is a guy that resells bikes and sounds like he knows his stuff. he said the bike is just like it came from giant in 94.
now, this is the bad i noticed: the tires don't match but appear to have decent tread. there are nicks and scratches everywhere and the paint is faded. the brake handles (risers?) have deep gouges in the sides. its got some cheap rattrap pedals on it.
What does the forum think the bike is worth? If anyone needs more info I can try and get it.
Thanks!
Brett
08-14-09, 06:27 PM
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Tires don't match, cheap pedals 
so what.
But a vintage carbon fiber frame with nicks and scratches? Now you've got my attention. Without a personal examination, I'd be real careful.
Assuming the frame passes an assessment by a competent LBS bike mechanic, an Ultegra STI 8 speed bike will sell for over $300 around here. Carbon fiber, even vintage CF is worth something, so I'd say maybe up to $400? So at $325, I'd say that's a fair price given its not pristine.
One note about Ultegra/600 STI shifters, they are probably the most overlooked quality shifters out there. Everyone goes nuts over Dura-Ace but overlooks the Shimano 600/Ultegra groupo. I have a pair along with an RX100 set, a 105 set, I've had SORA and I have an RSX 7 speed. The 600/Ultegra are the smoothest shifting units of all the older shifters that I have.
EDIT: Here's the link to describe that bike https://www.bikepedia.com/QuickBike/B...FR-1&Type=bike
so what.But a vintage carbon fiber frame with nicks and scratches? Now you've got my attention. Without a personal examination, I'd be real careful.
Assuming the frame passes an assessment by a competent LBS bike mechanic, an Ultegra STI 8 speed bike will sell for over $300 around here. Carbon fiber, even vintage CF is worth something, so I'd say maybe up to $400? So at $325, I'd say that's a fair price given its not pristine.
One note about Ultegra/600 STI shifters, they are probably the most overlooked quality shifters out there. Everyone goes nuts over Dura-Ace but overlooks the Shimano 600/Ultegra groupo. I have a pair along with an RX100 set, a 105 set, I've had SORA and I have an RSX 7 speed. The 600/Ultegra are the smoothest shifting units of all the older shifters that I have.
EDIT: Here's the link to describe that bike https://www.bikepedia.com/QuickBike/B...FR-1&Type=bike
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Look for cracks around the lugs. Cosmetic stuff can be repaired, but the lug/tube connection is important, and cracks are bad news.
Tires and pedals are what bke resellers take OFF if they're good, put ON if they're disposable.
roccobike is dead on about 600/Ultegra STI shifters. I have idetical sets of 8-sp STI's, one in 600, one in DA. The 600 is simply a quicker, lighter shifting version of the DA, for some reason, maybe lube, but it's like that.
I'd look the bike over and confirm the frame condition as pass/fail.
Then, I'd look it over again, ignore the frame and look at components. Make a list of needed vs. OK.
If the frame was fine, cosmetically repairable, and the components were fine, I'd go $275 and negotiate up using tires and pedals. Pedals are very often not sold, personal items, so you won't get much traction there. Tires, you can use as a bargaining point.
I'm like rocco..when I see a bike for sale, I look at it with modern STI in mind, and what kind of bike will it be after the upgrade, condition and investment-wise? Then I either pass or pull the trigger. I don't buy bikes, hoping to make them better at a reasonable cost. I either can or can't.
Tires and pedals are what bke resellers take OFF if they're good, put ON if they're disposable.
roccobike is dead on about 600/Ultegra STI shifters. I have idetical sets of 8-sp STI's, one in 600, one in DA. The 600 is simply a quicker, lighter shifting version of the DA, for some reason, maybe lube, but it's like that.
I'd look the bike over and confirm the frame condition as pass/fail.
Then, I'd look it over again, ignore the frame and look at components. Make a list of needed vs. OK.
If the frame was fine, cosmetically repairable, and the components were fine, I'd go $275 and negotiate up using tires and pedals. Pedals are very often not sold, personal items, so you won't get much traction there. Tires, you can use as a bargaining point.
I'm like rocco..when I see a bike for sale, I look at it with modern STI in mind, and what kind of bike will it be after the upgrade, condition and investment-wise? Then I either pass or pull the trigger. I don't buy bikes, hoping to make them better at a reasonable cost. I either can or can't.
