MEETING: Hollywood LAPD Cyclist Assaults
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MEETING: Hollywood LAPD Cyclist Assaults
By now you may have heard about the Hollywood LAPD assaulting cyclists during a recent Critical Mass ride:
https://laist.com/2010/05/29/caught_o...ass_bike_r.php
https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...-cyclists.html
Sgt. Krumer will be representing the LAPD at the upcoming Bicycle Advisory Committee meeting this Tuesday at 7 p.m.
Whether or not you support Critical Mass or social bike rides in general, the incidents have implications for the way that cyclists are treated by law enforcement, which, at best, has been handled in a glaringly inconsistent and frequently misinformed way. If you bicycle on public streets, I encourage you to attend this meeting.
LA City Council Bicycle Advisory Committee
Hollywood Neighborhood City Hall
6501 Fountain Ave. (between Cole & Wilcox)
Los Angeles, CA 90028
https://www.midnightridazz.com/viewSt...p?storyId=4977
https://laist.com/2010/05/29/caught_o...ass_bike_r.php
https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...-cyclists.html
Sgt. Krumer will be representing the LAPD at the upcoming Bicycle Advisory Committee meeting this Tuesday at 7 p.m.
Whether or not you support Critical Mass or social bike rides in general, the incidents have implications for the way that cyclists are treated by law enforcement, which, at best, has been handled in a glaringly inconsistent and frequently misinformed way. If you bicycle on public streets, I encourage you to attend this meeting.
LA City Council Bicycle Advisory Committee
Hollywood Neighborhood City Hall
6501 Fountain Ave. (between Cole & Wilcox)
Los Angeles, CA 90028
https://www.midnightridazz.com/viewSt...p?storyId=4977
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Two steps forward, one step back...
90% I will be there.
The NY thing was a little different, as the cop filed a report before he was aware of the video.
Portable video is certainly changing things. Better not do anything you would regret seeing later on film.
90% I will be there.
The NY thing was a little different, as the cop filed a report before he was aware of the video.
Portable video is certainly changing things. Better not do anything you would regret seeing later on film.
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That video isn't very definitive. Yea, you see the cop kick the guy but do any of you really know what happend? Probably not. It will be hear say from the LA fixed board or Midnight Ridazz. I've done enough rides with those yoyo's that if I was a cop I would kick them. The fixie attitude is as bad as the road nazis of the westside. I do believe the LAPD is not pro bike but I think before everyone gets how they get let's see what happens.
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That video isn't very definitive. Yea, you see the cop kick the guy but do any of you really know what happend? Probably not. It will be hear say from the LA fixed board or Midnight Ridazz. I've done enough rides with those yoyo's that if I was a cop I would kick them. The fixie attitude is as bad as the road nazis of the westside. I do believe the LAPD is not pro bike but I think before everyone gets how they get let's see what happens.
Issues between cyclists and the LAPD have been bad enough that a special task force was set up to deal with the problems, and Sgt Krumer heads that up. I'd suggest that if anyone wants to get a better idea of what is going on, that they attend the meeting tonight.
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Thanks for your opinion.
Issues between cyclists and the LAPD have been bad enough that a special task force was set up to deal with the problems, and Sgt Krumer heads that up. I'd suggest that if anyone wants to get a better idea of what is going on, that they attend the meeting tonight.
Issues between cyclists and the LAPD have been bad enough that a special task force was set up to deal with the problems, and Sgt Krumer heads that up. I'd suggest that if anyone wants to get a better idea of what is going on, that they attend the meeting tonight.
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That video isn't very definitive. Yea, you see the cop kick the guy but do any of you really know what happend? Probably not. It will be hear say from the LA fixed board or Midnight Ridazz. I've done enough rides with those yoyo's that if I was a cop I would kick them. The fixie attitude is as bad as the road nazis of the westside. I do believe the LAPD is not pro bike but I think before everyone gets how they get let's see what happens.
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Might be extremely lively and well attended ( I hope)...I don't mean to sound negative.
I'll be there.
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#12
cops HATE critical mass, in every city.
Why? because instead of fostering a positive image for cyclists, a bunch of yahoos always show up to run lights and disobey traffic rules. that's why I no longer participate.
Why? because instead of fostering a positive image for cyclists, a bunch of yahoos always show up to run lights and disobey traffic rules. that's why I no longer participate.
#13
Wow. The story was picked up on the local TV news:
https://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?se...les&id=7473995
https://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?se...les&id=7473995
#14
And from the front page of latimes.com:
https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...p-protest.html
Looks like this story may have legs.
https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...p-protest.html
Looks like this story may have legs.
#15
And from the front page of latimes.com:
https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...p-protest.html
Looks like this story may have legs.
https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...p-protest.html
Looks like this story may have legs.
A good summary of the evening has been posted at Streetsblog:
https://la.streetsblog.org/2010/06/02...-running-high/
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+1000 looks like an legal assembly to me. Everyone in the circle of death should have been detained and cited.
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In that case, the police are required to clearly declare that the assembly is an illegal one and allow the crowd to disperse before making any arrests.
Certainly performing a "circle of death" would entail a number of traffic violations, and the participants would be citable. However, the only mention of the "circle of death" I have heard in connection with this particular incident (and I listened a great deal of testimony from both the LAPD and cyclists who were on the ride during the Bicycle Advisory Committee meeting last night) was on the Channel 7 news report, where they showed unrelated footage of a different ride. The YouTube video plainly shows bicycle riders moving east on Hollywood Blvd., so the cyclists targeted in the video cannot be participating in a "circle of death" at the time the video was shot.
Even in the event that a cyclist runs a red light or fails to use a white headlight, I think it is reasonable to ask if a violent takedown, potentially causing serious injuries, is warranted.
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I can appreciate your enthusiasm to slag CM but unless you've been to each city and spoken to police officers who attend CM rides in each of those cities, you're pretty much talking out of your hat.
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And how many attend? 5, 10, 15?

