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Old 07-13-10, 09:14 AM
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What an AMAZING race today!!!
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That group of 4 at the front absolutely blew it. They were there for the win and they let Schleck and AC get back into the race. Incredible!
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Good race for Leipheimer, Menchov and Gesink all things considered.
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Stage 9 exceeded my expectations. What a day.
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Wiggo, Rogers, Evans - au revoir.

and how could I forget... Carlos.
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Top 10 is starting to really take shape now, the end result could be pretty close to that:
1. SCHLECK Andy 43h 35' 41"
2. CONTADOR Alberto + 00' 41"
3. SANCHEZ Samuel + 02' 45"
4. MENCHOV Denis + 02' 58"
5. VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen + 03' 31"
6. LEIPHEIMER Levi + 03' 59"
7. GESINK Robert + 04' 22"
8. SANCHEZ Luis-Leon + 04' 41"
9. RODRIGUEZ OLIVER Joaquin + 05' 08"
10. BASSO Ivan + 05' 09"
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Watching Jens just a few meters from the summit just totally dead, he looked so disappointed that he couldn't quite make it! What a teammate, he killed himself for Schleck.
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Wishing I'd seen Casar's sprint.
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Originally Posted by Laggard
Wishing I'd seen Casar's sprint.
Wasn't so much a sprint as a well positioned mild acceleration.
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What kind of speed was generated on the final descent?
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Wasn't so much a sprint as a well positioned mild acceleration.
Yeah. It was obvious that he knew where the finish line was on that turn and simply put himself in position on the left side of the road so that anyone trying to come round would have to go right and that was the long way round today.
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What a great race today!!
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It all open between Schleck and Conti.

Andy did some attacking early after they broke away, couldn't drop Conti, who on the other hand didn't kill Schleck on the descent, and also didn't look like the super dude of yester-years.

Amazing day. Too bad Sanchez didn't catch those two before it flattened. Looks like he cramped up.

Good day for Saxo. Fuglsang, Voigt and Chris Anker did what the Astanas did on Stage 8.

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Originally Posted by USAZorro
Wasn't so much a sprint as a well positioned mild acceleration.
He's always been one of the smarter riders in the peloton.
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From the live interview with Andy Schleck sur FR2

"Contador didn't want to make a move, I attacked as much as I could, If I attacked one more time probably it would have been me who cracked, so Contador told me, let's just roll together from here and we'll define this later one between us"

EDIT: copy/paste from another forum. Still looking for this interview.

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Remarkable stage today. What was Vino doing, please? That boy is as mad as a box of frogs.
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"On the final climb I attacked to try and drop Contador. It was not a test. I was going all out – I showed all the cards I had. If I attacked one more time I would have dropped myself. I’m actually pretty happy that he didn’t respond to what I was doing with one of his attacks. “I was quite happy that we rode the last three or four kilometers together to the top" - A Schleck

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Originally Posted by mcoomer
That group of 4 at the front absolutely blew it. They were there for the win and they let Schleck and AC get back into the race. Incredible!
Yeah, they ended up finishing 1/2/3. That's really blowing it.

I'm pretty sure Casar's going to get a stern talking to by management.

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Can't believe Evans rode today (and stage 8) with a fractured elbow. wow.
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Can't believe Evans rode today (and stage 8) with a fractured elbow. wow.
Did he? Actually it sounds more remarkable than it is. A few years ago I crashed about 40 miles into a 125-mile event when someone went down on a gravel patch at the bottom of a descent and I rode right into him. Broke my fall with an outstretched hand and knew I'd done something to the elbow, but thought I'd just jarred it. Finished the event - another 85 very hilly miles - and only two weeks later, when the elbow still wouldn't quite straighten, discovered I'd fractured the radial head. It only really hurts when you try to rotate the arm, you can ride a bike with it perfectly well.
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I said the other day that Evans looked weak and it showed today. The elbow fracture is a convenient excuse but he just doesn't have it. Schleck looked good but is lucky he didn't blow himself up with the attacks. Contador looked much better today. No idea who is looking bettter, but I'm leaning toward Contador looking stronger again. I guess it probably all just depends on the day. I think Lance showed that he is in shape and fit enough to have finished well on GC but his mistakes took him out of it. I don't think he could have gotten a podium spot without the crashes, flats, etc but top 10, maybe top 5 would not have been out of the question. Astana showed they are strong again and I am liking Contador more as time goes on. He is racing pretty smart and is seeming likable. Still hope Schleck pulls it off though. Too much fun!
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Yeah, they ended up finishing 1/2/3. That's really blowing it.

I'm pretty sure Casar's going to get a stern talking to by management.
My point being that they shouldn't have had to worry about anyone overtaking them and complicating their ride. Without the introduction of those three riders that final push for the finish would probably have played out differently. Sandy's obviously not going to get a lecture but I bet Cunego, Moreau (sp?), and Sanchez are wishing they had those last 2-3 kilometers to ride again. You see it time and again though where a small group will start the gamesmanship at the end and get caught from behind. Seems it's a lesson that was learned again today.
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Right now, I think A. Schleck has to be more worried about Contador's TT ability, than Contador is worried about Schleck's climbing ability. On the climbing, they appear pretty close. On the versus coverage I think P. Liggit was saying that Contador can gain as much as 3 minutes on Schleck in the time trial.
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Originally Posted by mcoomer
My point being that they shouldn't have had to worry about anyone overtaking them and complicating their ride....
It sounded like they weren't expecting to get caught up by the top 2 GC guys. Casar said: “We knew some riders were coming from behind but we didn’t know who it was. I was a little surprised there were no attacks 3-4km from the finish. When the Schleck group caught us and Andy took the lead it was a surprise for us.”

Anyone less and they wouldn't have had so much to worry about.


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Without the introduction of those three riders that final push for the finish would probably have played out differently. Sandy's obviously not going to get a lecture but I bet Cunego, Moreau (sp?), and Sanchez are wishing they had those last 2-3 kilometers to ride again. You see it time and again though where a small group will start the gamesmanship at the end and get caught from behind. Seems it's a lesson that was learned again today.
They got caught 2km from the finish; and if they tried to dust the chasers, as individuals they might not have had enough energy to out-kick the rest of the group (or the chasers) at the finish line. I have my doubts things would've ended all that much differently if they had stayed organized for another km or so.

Besides, any time you have a sprint finish, you're going to have a bunch of riders banging the handlebars and second-guessing their finishing tactics.

The fact that the breakaway basically succeeded on the toughest stage so far, including an HC climb, is pretty impressive. Even if it wasn't perfect, those guys have no reason to feel bad about their performance. Evans, on the other hand....
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Wiggins in December '09:

Wiggins signed a two-year deal with Garmin in October 2008, but had become frustrated with the American team's ambitions.
"It's like trying to win the Champions League," he told BBC Sport in September. "You need to be at Manchester United, but I'm playing at Wigan. I've had a good time at Garmin, but times have changed."
7 minutes down already, Bradley? Should have stayed at Wigan.
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