arp415

Just curious, seems that they offer less and less on their website these days, albeit at lower prices as well.

Squirrelli

I was thinking the same thing when I saw Mark V + Pro were taken out of the line up, then suspicion grew stronger when the hubs and rims sale started.

I think they're just clearing out their stock, and making some rooms for new stuff. Possibly reintroducing Rob Roy and Jamie Roy.

arp415

New stuff would be fun, but it feels like a going out of business sale.

jdgesus 

i dont think so? as i wanted a phoenix frame and they said they'd have my size UNTIL the spring time

edit: typing hard

kellencorkill

Maybe getting rid of 2010 stuff to make room for 2011 stuff?

riot2003

Just bought a set of hubs. So excited for that deal.

klaw091

glad I have my iro already then.
it would be a shame for them to go out of business. quality bikes at good prices XD

adriano 

that hub deal has been in place for three years.

rawsted

Are they definitely reintroducing the RR and JR?

Squirrelli

Different deal.

klaw091

lets hope so. I would be on it haha.

riot2003

Well I am none the wiser as the need for hubs has so recently presented itself. Lucky me.

tFUnK

guess it's hard to compete against the likes of bikesdirect and retrospec

Kol.klink

I'd be all over the rob roy, i was thinking about a Surly instead but i'd totally jump an IRO first. It would be a shame if they when away...

mihlbach

I never understood why IRO completely phased the RR out in the first place. Its like a swiss army knife of SSFG framesets. They never even replaced it with something comparable. With this whole monstercross fad, you'd think there would be a market for it.

I have a British Racing Green RR from the group buy that took place a few years ago..that was the last of the RRs. Mine has been set up just about every way possible. Used it this morning in the snow with cross tires and 38x16.



It doesn't appear to me that they are cleaning out to make space for new....looks more to me like they are trying to get rid of whatever's left and not replacing it with any new stock. I like IRO....I hope they stick around.

monsterkidz

The market has changed in the last few years. I remember when IRO was the go to place for budget fixed gear frames and parts. Now, people want $50 frames and $6 parts, etc etc. It's a shame.

mconlonx

SS/FG RR GB in orange:



Sold to a gent in NYC, complete with S/A S3X x XL-FD x Chukker x Nokian setup.

Rob Roy RIP. Not sure why they dropped it; Phoenix is a completely new deal, not a replacement.

TejanoTrackie 

IDK. Maybe it didn't sell well? If I were interested in that sort of frame, I think the Surly Cross Check would be a better choice with its horizontal dropouts.

mihlbach

IRO should have redesigned the RR instead of just chucking it. Judging by the group buy participants, it didn't sell as well as IRO's more road-oriented frames, but thats not exactly surprising considering it was a cross frame. However, it had and still has a very steady fan-base. The Cross Check is a good substitute, but the RR was considerably less expensive and would still be today if it hadn't been retired. Plus IRO allows you a lot of customization when ordering complete bikes from them, which would have given it a pretty substantial competitive edge over a Cross Check.

The problem with IROs lineup since they retired the RR (and the JR) is that they aren't much different from a million other offerings out there. The RR was a bit unique, and even today there aren't many frames out there that are anything like it selling for what the RR sold for.

mconlonx

^^^ this. The Phoenix is unique, but not a replacement, not a sscx frame, and commuter IGH ready frame seems like a much smaller market than sscx. Scratched my head at the decision to replace instead of add-on and continue production of the RR and JR... but I am not a small frame/bike mfg, so what do I know. They got the numbers in front of them. If the Phoenix is dropped and there's a new run of RR/JRs, I guess that might answer the question.

Kol.klink

Rob-roy group buy?

adriano 

theres effectively no difference.

Squirrelli

One deal offers fixed/fixed and colour options while the other is just fixed/free and black.

I'd say people like the fixed/fixed deal more than the fixed/free one.

adriano 

are the new ones fixed free only? mine from long ago are double fixed.

yummygooey

There are options for fixed/fixed or fixed/free.

Regardless of new deal or old deal or whatever you two are bickering about, I so badly want to pull the trigger on a set of crap to build some wheels up. Too bad textbooks > extra wheels.