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Time for more touring!
On my doc's advice, I've been riding more. And the best way to get myself to ride more is to plan another bicycle tour. (Because I train for them.)
I'm in Central NJ, have been all over the state on a bike (well, most of it - see the journal links in my sig), so I'm looking for inspiration. Any ideas on a great long weekend tour?
I'm in Central NJ, have been all over the state on a bike (well, most of it - see the journal links in my sig), so I'm looking for inspiration. Any ideas on a great long weekend tour?
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Have done week long tours and weekend ones. PM me? We can set something up.
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Never done touring at all but can join you for a little riding one or two days. Even if I meet up with you, park, and ride for a while and then I can ride back.
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On my doc's advice, I've been riding more. And the best way to get myself to ride more is to plan another bicycle tour. (Because I train for them.)
I'm in Central NJ, have been all over the state on a bike (well, most of it - see the journal links in my sig), so I'm looking for inspiration. Any ideas on a great long weekend tour?
I'm in Central NJ, have been all over the state on a bike (well, most of it - see the journal links in my sig), so I'm looking for inspiration. Any ideas on a great long weekend tour?
The one that seems really interesting is the ride that starts at High Point, and goes diagonally through the state and ends up at Cape May. This one: https://www.state.nj.us/transportatio...ntcapemay6.pdf
I'm nowhere near ready for this one yet, but you probably are (if you haven't done it already). This one is my stretch goal, hopefully by next fall. If not then, the following Spring.
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We are hoping to do Port Jervis, NY to Philly Easter weekend following AC's Atlantic Coast route. One night in Worthington State Forest near Delaware Water Gap, PA and one night at Bull's Island if the camprgound re-opens. There was serioius damage from Irene and/or Lee. Riding down the Gap is really nice. (Just missed seeing a bear during the Black Bear Century back in October.) The stretch along the river from Water Gap to Frenchtown is a hidden gem. And there's the trail to Bull's Island and L'Ville.
Not sure how we are going to get to Port Jervis. Believe it or not, full rail service from Hoboken has been restored. Our first choice is to find someone who is willing to drive us and our bikes up there, for a fee of course.
Not sure how we are going to get to Port Jervis. Believe it or not, full rail service from Hoboken has been restored. Our first choice is to find someone who is willing to drive us and our bikes up there, for a fee of course.
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We are hoping to do Port Jervis, NY to Philly Easter weekend following AC's Atlantic Coast route. One night in Worthington State Forest near Delaware Water Gap, PA and one night at Bull's Island if the camprgound re-opens. There was serioius damage from Irene and/or Lee. Riding down the Gap is really nice. (Just missed seeing a bear during the Black Bear Century back in October.) The stretch along the river from Water Gap to Frenchtown is a hidden gem. And there's the trail to Bull's Island and L'Ville.
Not sure how we are going to get to Port Jervis. Believe it or not, full rail service from Hoboken has been restored. Our first choice is to find someone who is willing to drive us and our bikes up there, for a fee of course.
Not sure how we are going to get to Port Jervis. Believe it or not, full rail service from Hoboken has been restored. Our first choice is to find someone who is willing to drive us and our bikes up there, for a fee of course.
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I've been tempted to do this ride for the last couple years. It gets great recommendations from some folks I ride with. Might not be the actual kind of touring you're looking for, but might be worth a look...
https://mariettariverrendezvous.weebl...ride-info.html
https://mariettariverrendezvous.weebl...ride-info.html
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You've probably done this a million times already, but I'll throw it out there anyway: The towpath from New Brunswick to Princeton to Trenton (I think), then up the Delaware to Lambertsville, then cross over to the PA side to New Hope, and back down the Delaware. I'm planning this as my virgin tour, in the April/early May timeframe.
Tony, if you go, could you let me know what the conditions/paths are like?
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My 11 year old godson, who begs to go for a ride on the Schuylkill River Trail every time he comes to visit Philly, just asked me about a camping tour. Now, I think his idea of touring is about 25 miles, and while I have pannier to carry my camping gear, I don't see myself carrying gear for both families... so a ride up the Delaware, an overnight at a New Hope B&B, and a ride back the next day sounds about right to me.
Tony, if you go, could you let me know what the conditions/paths are like?
Tony, if you go, could you let me know what the conditions/paths are like?
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Not quite a tour, Neil F, but worth doing is the Lehigh Gorge Trail. From just north of White Haven to Jim Thorpe is about 26 miles. Jim Thorpe is a lovely little Victorian town, and I think you and your wife would enjoy spending an afternoon or morning there.
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You've probably done this a million times already, but I'll throw it out there anyway: The towpath from New Brunswick to Princeton to Trenton (I think), then up the Delaware to Lambertsville, then cross over to the PA side to New Hope, and back down the Delaware. I'm planning this as my virgin tour, in the April/early May timeframe. It's pretty flat, but I need to get used to riding for multi-hours, see what I need to carry, etc. If my progress continues, I'll be under 200 lbs by then. (Another 15 lbs to go, lost 12 so far...)
The one that seems really interesting is the ride that starts at High Point, and goes diagonally through the state and ends up at Cape May. This one: https://www.state.nj.us/transportatio...ntcapemay6.pdf
I'm nowhere near ready for this one yet, but you probably are (if you haven't done it already). This one is my stretch goal, hopefully by next fall. If not then, the following Spring.
The one that seems really interesting is the ride that starts at High Point, and goes diagonally through the state and ends up at Cape May. This one: https://www.state.nj.us/transportatio...ntcapemay6.pdf
I'm nowhere near ready for this one yet, but you probably are (if you haven't done it already). This one is my stretch goal, hopefully by next fall. If not then, the following Spring.
Done the towpath, although not all in one shot. Neil B and I did our first 50-mile ride there some years ago, it's very nice. There are stretches of it that were damaged in the hurricane last year, though - and this is right after they resurfaced it very nicely. I understand you still want mountain bike tires for the Trenton to New Brunswick half, or at least some of it.
The towpath is a great way to train for distance riding, despite the off-road aspect: The lack of hills makes it a kinder, gentler training ride. You may still want to do some hill training on top of that.
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That looks quite nice. Is there camping on either end of the trail?
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Done the towpath, although not all in one shot. Neil B and I did our first 50-mile ride there some years ago, it's very nice. There are stretches of it that were damaged in the hurricane last year, though - and this is right after they resurfaced it very nicely. I understand you still want mountain bike tires for the Trenton to New Brunswick half, or at least some of it.
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No camping, but motels and B & B nearby. There's camping about ten miles from the north end at Hickory Run State Park. PA Bike Route Y, or L, I forget which, runs through the park and will take you into White Haven. The hills on the PA Bike Route are fierce, however - one of them is a 14 per cent grade.
If you camp at Hickory Run State Park, by all means see Boulder Field.
If you camp at Hickory Run State Park, by all means see Boulder Field.
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No camping, but motels and B & B nearby. There's camping about ten miles from the north end at Hickory Run State Park. PA Bike Route Y, or L, I forget which, runs through the park and will take you into White Haven. The hills on the PA Bike Route are fierce, however - one of them is a 14 per cent grade.
If you camp at Hickory Run State Park, by all means see Boulder Field.
If you camp at Hickory Run State Park, by all means see Boulder Field.
There is also this place that's closer to town:
https://www.jimthorpecamping.com/
However, from the reviews it sounds like the owners can be a bit psycho.
You could probably get away with scamping. About 4 miles north of the southern trail terminus is a spur rail line with a path along side it that runs to Weatherly. Take that path a few miles along the creek and you will find some secluded spots. The biggest problem might be finding level ground to pitch a tent.
The Bolder Field is a neat place. There is also a steep but very nice hike at the Glen Onoko trailhead at the southern terminus. It takes you up through the woods to a multi-tiered waterfall. The trail is poorly marked and sort of amorphous in spots, but you can usually find your way.
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I took the train there from Union, NJ (changing in Secaucus). Not sure how the new rules about bikes only on accesible platforms affect the service to Port Jervis, though; it's complex, considering that MetroNorth runs part of that line. But if you can confirm train service, it's a good way to go.
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My 700x34 light knobbies are, I think, the perfect combination of speed and traction for this trail.
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I mean "not skinny road tires." Knobbies are nice awesome on this trail, but a friend of mine rides it on 700x32 touring tires. (He's a little crazy, but he does it.) Slicks should be okay, I think, though you may want to be careful where the gravel gets slipper.
My 700x34 light knobbies are, I think, the perfect combination of speed and traction for this trail.
My 700x34 light knobbies are, I think, the perfect combination of speed and traction for this trail.
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All this talk about touring has given me the itch - and not the kind you get from the shower at a hostel when you forget your sandals.
Let the planning commence!
Let the planning commence!
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I think you and Neil F. should tour together. The two of you have much in common. Including, for better or worse, me.
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Very little on paths. The plan is to take the trail from Frenchtown to Bull's Island on day 2 and then again from Bull's Island to L'Ville on day 3. Other than that, it's all on-road, although some of the roads can be so devoid of traffic that they ressemble trails.
Here are the first two days:
https://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/pj-worthington
https://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/worth-bi
I think the altitude data is exagerrated. (At least I hope they are.) If the N.P.S. repairs a washed out road in the Recreation Area I may be able to smooth out the first day a bit.
BTW, and someone may have mentioned this, some of the D&R path below L'Ville was damaged. We drove up that way over the holidays and it was still not passible, which forces you onto SR 29. Not the optimal situation. I would also check on the status of the path in PA. Above New Hope it's dreadful is some spots despite all the money they poured into it. Hopefully the portion below New Hope is still in better condition. Don't know if it was affected by last summer's storms.
If you want to have a decent, affordably priced dinner in the area without the pretense, go to Bell's (cash only) in L'Ville, which, IMO, is far better than New Hope:
https://www.bellstavern.com/
Makes for a nice walk. Go early as it can get crowded. When we have done out annual Easter weekend trips to Bull's Island we have ridden down the path to Bell's for dinner Saturday night. We have then ridden the 7 miles back in the dark. Pretty spooky, especially when the rabbits and skunks have been out.
Afterwards, go to the Boat House for drinks. It's down the alley from the Blue Raccoon furniture/interior decor store. Really cozy, two story place covered wall to wall and floor to ceiling with old maritime and rowing-related stuff. In addition to the bar, there are comfy couches and chairs. And they only let in enough people to just fill the place. People have to leave before they will let more in.
Here are the first two days:
https://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/pj-worthington
https://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/worth-bi
I think the altitude data is exagerrated. (At least I hope they are.) If the N.P.S. repairs a washed out road in the Recreation Area I may be able to smooth out the first day a bit.
BTW, and someone may have mentioned this, some of the D&R path below L'Ville was damaged. We drove up that way over the holidays and it was still not passible, which forces you onto SR 29. Not the optimal situation. I would also check on the status of the path in PA. Above New Hope it's dreadful is some spots despite all the money they poured into it. Hopefully the portion below New Hope is still in better condition. Don't know if it was affected by last summer's storms.
If you want to have a decent, affordably priced dinner in the area without the pretense, go to Bell's (cash only) in L'Ville, which, IMO, is far better than New Hope:
https://www.bellstavern.com/
Makes for a nice walk. Go early as it can get crowded. When we have done out annual Easter weekend trips to Bull's Island we have ridden down the path to Bell's for dinner Saturday night. We have then ridden the 7 miles back in the dark. Pretty spooky, especially when the rabbits and skunks have been out.
Afterwards, go to the Boat House for drinks. It's down the alley from the Blue Raccoon furniture/interior decor store. Really cozy, two story place covered wall to wall and floor to ceiling with old maritime and rowing-related stuff. In addition to the bar, there are comfy couches and chairs. And they only let in enough people to just fill the place. People have to leave before they will let more in.