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Winter Grease
Has anyone used lightweight synthetic grease during the winter to reduce the stiffness in bearings?
I was out in my unheated shop tinkering with a frame/fork that I picked up and pulled out the can-o-grease just to smear some on the stem and seatpost, both of which had been slightly stuck. The grease was so thick that I had to dig at it to get some on my finger and it was very hard to smear on the seatpost. No wonder my bike has seemed so stiff. I thought it was a combination of cold muscles and heavy clothing.
Since this new to me frame and fork will become my Plan B and winter bike, I was wondering if I should put in an old style cup and bearing BB so that I could pack it and the wheel bearings with lightweight synthetic grease next fall.
I was out in my unheated shop tinkering with a frame/fork that I picked up and pulled out the can-o-grease just to smear some on the stem and seatpost, both of which had been slightly stuck. The grease was so thick that I had to dig at it to get some on my finger and it was very hard to smear on the seatpost. No wonder my bike has seemed so stiff. I thought it was a combination of cold muscles and heavy clothing.
Since this new to me frame and fork will become my Plan B and winter bike, I was wondering if I should put in an old style cup and bearing BB so that I could pack it and the wheel bearings with lightweight synthetic grease next fall.
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you can add a light oil to your grease to thin it out . I like your idea of using an old style cup & bearing BB . Depending on how cold it can get in your area can and will makes the grease dryer and harder . it best to repack the bearing every 6 months depending on how much and where ,& how you ride.
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How long had it been since you'd repacked those bearings? The stuff doesn't last forever, it will get thick/dry/crusty over time. I have not had a problem with bearings getting stiff using regular auto disc and drum bearing grease in temperatures down to -10F. Cables on the other hand...
How long had it been since you'd repacked those bearings? The stuff doesn't last forever, it will get thick/dry/crusty over time. I have not had a problem with bearings getting stiff using regular auto disc and drum bearing grease in temperatures down to -10F. Cables on the other hand...
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for use on cable ,use a light oil instead of grease . yes back in the day before housing liners we would use grease . the liner replace the grease and gives you a smoother and better respond .
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I use lightweight grease (Phi'ls in my case) year round for all my bikes. Bearings last nearly forever and I see no benefit to heavier grease anytime of the year.
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+1, a decently light grease is plenty in the summer and manageable in the winter. Not counting cables, and freewheel ratchets which I oil, the only time I've run into a stiff grease issue was some 40+ years ago when my headset was so stiff at -8F that the bike was barely steerable. I didn't notice any difference in the hubs, BB or pedals, which I guess the riding kept free enough.
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+1, a decently light grease is plenty in the summer and manageable in the winter. Not counting cables, and freewheel ratchets which I oil, the only time I've run into a stiff grease issue was some 40+ years ago when my headset was so stiff at -8F that the bike was barely steerable. I didn't notice any difference in the hubs, BB or pedals, which I guess the riding kept free enough.
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I use Pedro's synthetic grease year round and it doesn't get thick in cold weather. Finish Line also makes a synthetic grease that works just as well. The Pedro's looks like hand creme.
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you would be amazed how much you can warm up grease and oil by compressing it.
as the ball rolls around the race, it compresses the grease ..
a Diesel engine compresses oil until it detonates..
as the ball rolls around the race, it compresses the grease ..
a Diesel engine compresses oil until it detonates..
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Grease I use for bearings and threads is Super Lube grease. I used to use finishline teflon grease.
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Thanks for the responses. All my bearings on the bike I'm currently riding were packed last spring and the wheels were repacked in late fall using a general purpose automotive grease. The BB is a UN54 so whatever is in there is what I'm stuck with. As mentioned, I'm building a Plan B/trail/winter bike and that is where I'm considering using a cup a bearing BB with lighter grease. In fact, I may switch over to using Super Lube silicone based synthetic grease with teflon for all my bearings as the search I did revealed good reviews on the product. I see Ben4345 is using it. Anyone else? Any reports good or bad?
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Thanks for the responses. All my bearings on the bike I'm currently riding were packed last spring and the wheels were repacked in late fall using a general purpose automotive grease. The BB is a UN54 so whatever is in there is what I'm stuck with. As mentioned, I'm building a Plan B/trail/winter bike and that is where I'm considering using a cup a bearing BB with lighter grease. In fact, I may switch over to using Super Lube silicone based synthetic grease with teflon for all my bearings as the search I did revealed good reviews on the product. I see Ben4345 is using it. Anyone else? Any reports good or bad?
Super Lube grease is really good stuff, even you don't use it for your bike, it is a great to have around the house too. I have used it on a lot of things, very versatile.
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Personally can't see any reason to use a thick grease even in the summer. Bicycle bearings neither spin fast enough nor get hot enough to need a high viscosity 'soap' to deal with those conditions. Its the oil content in the grease that provides the lube - the rest just keeps it from dripping out.
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I was surprised to see how thick the grease in the can got being it was only down to about 15F at the time I used it. It was so stiff it was hard to spread on the seatpost with my finger and didn't want to stick or smear well. I can't imagine how thick this stuff would be at -30F.
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I am with the just use a quality light grease like Phil's and you will have no issue. So far this winter hasn't dropped below zero but at 5-8 deg I can not tell any noticeable difference in how well the bike rolls or the cranks turn.
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I shouldn't nit pic on a tangential point, but your diesel engine compresses air till it reaches the temperature that oil will ignite when injected. It does not compress the oil.
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I was going to let this slide, but might as well pile on. Even if grease were compressible (which it isn't) you couldn't compress it with a rolling ball in a bearing, you can only push it out of the way. The process is more analogous to plowing snow.
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For more serious cold conditions, Lubriplate Mag 1 is recommended.
https://www.lubriplate.com/products/g...-1-mag-00.html
https://www.icebike.org/Equipment/freehub.htm
https://www.allweathersports.com/winter/winter.html#Lube
https://www.lubriplate.com/products/g...-1-mag-00.html
https://www.icebike.org/Equipment/freehub.htm
https://www.allweathersports.com/winter/winter.html#Lube
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Ice skates and bobsleds heat the ice as they pass over it, part of the speed ..
it not going to be much but a little counts in physics.
it not going to be much but a little counts in physics.
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I understood your point that bearing friction can warm and thin out the grease in hubs but your extrapolating it to the ignition level was a bit over the top.
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I'm surprised that Sixty-Fiver hasn't checked in yet. He blends in synthetic and/or light oil during the winter, so his bikes keep working at really low temps.
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