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brake recomendations
Looking for brake recomendations for the tandem I am building. It is a road tandem with drop bars and ultegra brifters. It has no provisions for disc. My options are cantilevers, v-brakes with travel agents and mini-v-brakes.
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You will find a variety of opinions . Here's my two cents:
Cantilevers are a good choice if you have skinny tires, such as 28s or narrower, and if you don't plan to mount fenders. EDIT - due to brain fade this opinion is about CALIPER brakes, not cantilevers. Sorry!
V-brakes with travel agents are are a good choice, especially if you have wider tires and/or fenders.
Mini-V-brakes are sort of in-between so far as fit is concerned. In addition, not from personal experience, but from what I have read on this forum, the opinions on mini-v-brakes are quite polarized, with some loving them and others hating them.
Regardless of the type of brake, you may also want to plan on replacing the OEM brake pads shortly after you install the brakes. We are very happy with Kool-Stop pads, and I have read good things about other premium brands. The premium pads seem to make the OEM pads feel like fingernails scratching on a blackboard.
Cantilevers are a good choice if you have skinny tires, such as 28s or narrower, and if you don't plan to mount fenders. EDIT - due to brain fade this opinion is about CALIPER brakes, not cantilevers. Sorry!
V-brakes with travel agents are are a good choice, especially if you have wider tires and/or fenders.
Mini-V-brakes are sort of in-between so far as fit is concerned. In addition, not from personal experience, but from what I have read on this forum, the opinions on mini-v-brakes are quite polarized, with some loving them and others hating them.
Regardless of the type of brake, you may also want to plan on replacing the OEM brake pads shortly after you install the brakes. We are very happy with Kool-Stop pads, and I have read good things about other premium brands. The premium pads seem to make the OEM pads feel like fingernails scratching on a blackboard.
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We have had success with Avid and Shimano V-Brakes and now use cantilevers on our tandem with 38mm tires and Campy Record shifters. Wide profile (like shown below) Canti brakes are great with wide tires. I personally don't like low profile canti brakes.
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Our Speedster shipped with Avid v-brakes & travel agents. The set has worked well for us here in flat-ish NE FL. You could also opt for a disc front fork. With a metal fork, that should work fine. A carbon fiber disc fork should be viewed w/ great caution. From Santana's website: https://santanatandems.com/Techno/MechVsHydro.html ("why not up front").
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I agree the report on mini-v brakes go from one extreme to the other. Cantilever brakes are kind of the same in reviews but it seems like the cantilevers are more of a setup issue. I really like the idea of mini v due to not needing the travel agent.
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I've grown to dislike the travel agents. We don't usually use fenders except when touring. And without fenders the travel agents eventually get enough grit in them they no longer operate smoothly. I'm trying out Paul Components MiniMotos on the my single touring bike. I like them so well I'll be installing a set on the tandem to try out. My review on CGOAB here:
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What type of terrain do you ride (flats, hills, steep hills, etc.) How much does your team weigh? Just some of the factors to consider when you need to control your speed.
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I've grown to dislike the travel agents. We don't usually use fenders except when touring. And without fenders the travel agents eventually get enough grit in them they no longer operate smoothly. I'm trying out Paul Components MiniMotos on the my single touring bike. I like them so well I'll be installing a set on the tandem to try out. My review on CGOAB here:
https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/revi...1&nested=0&v=K
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I've grown to dislike the travel agents. We don't usually use fenders except when touring. And without fenders the travel agents eventually get enough grit in them they no longer operate smoothly. I'm trying out Paul Components MiniMotos on the my single touring bike. I like them so well I'll be installing a set on the tandem to try out. My review on CGOAB here:
https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/revi...1&nested=0&v=K
https://www.crazyguyonabike.com/revi...1&nested=0&v=K
Paul stuff is not inexpensive, but has proven it self many times in the off-road riding arena. I have never used those brakes, but have ridden other Paul's Component brakes and levers, very lightweight, and a solid feel at the lever with easy to work with feel to control the stop. I would expect similar from these brakes.
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I use Mavic SSC which are one of the strongest caliper brakes. Shimano Dura Ace are also supposed to be good.
I have not had any problems, but no matter what brakes you have on a tandem stopping in a emergency can be a problem.
When I had V brakes on my previous tandem I HATED them.
I have not had any problems, but no matter what brakes you have on a tandem stopping in a emergency can be a problem.
When I had V brakes on my previous tandem I HATED them.
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I don't want to hijack this thread...but yes, I'll report back after giving them a try. fyi.. Travel agents are easy to set up. Just follow the included directions.
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Ok I just installed avid single digit 7's with travel agents. The front brake seems to have decent power but the rear is extremly mushy. Also the only way to get pad clearance was to remove all the adjusting washers betwen the pads and the brake arms. Anyone else encounter this or have ideas on how to correct the mushy feel?
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Ok I just installed avid single digit 7's with travel agents. The front brake seems to have decent power but the rear is extremly mushy. Also the only way to get pad clearance was to remove all the adjusting washers betwen the pads and the brake arms. Anyone else encounter this or have ideas on how to correct the mushy feel?
I am replacing them with a Kore Sport cantilever up front and a tektro mini vee out back.
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I use Mavic SSC which are one of the strongest caliper brakes. Shimano Dura Ace are also supposed to be good.
I have not had any problems, but no matter what brakes you have on a tandem stopping in a emergency can be a problem.
When I had V brakes on my previous tandem I HATED them.
I have not had any problems, but no matter what brakes you have on a tandem stopping in a emergency can be a problem.
When I had V brakes on my previous tandem I HATED them.
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I think the problem is flex in the frame and brake bosses. I am going to try a brace (brake booster) to see if it helps.
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Turns out brake booster didnt do anything for me. Placed the spring for the v-brake in the upper hole in brake boss and readjusted the travel agent. Works a lot better.
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I am 300+lbs, and we are 500+lbs team.
The T50 has Avid SD5 front and rear (flat bars) - works incredibly well.
I have Tektro R536 dual pivots on one solo bike and R559 dual pivots on another. They also provide incredible stopping power with the original pads.
Mini V provide little or no fender clearance - all my bikes have fenders.
The T50 has Avid SD5 front and rear (flat bars) - works incredibly well.
I have Tektro R536 dual pivots on one solo bike and R559 dual pivots on another. They also provide incredible stopping power with the original pads.
Mini V provide little or no fender clearance - all my bikes have fenders.
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