Using Framesaver on a 30 year old frame, does it help?
03-11-13, 11:02 AM
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Using Framesaver on a 30 year old frame, does it help?
I've always applied Framesaver to my new-from-the-factory steel frames. I hate rust.
But what about using it on a 30 year old frame? The frame is rust-free on the exterior, the inside around the BB and head-tube look clean.
Is Framesaver still effective on frames that have seen use for 30 years?
But what about using it on a 30 year old frame? The frame is rust-free on the exterior, the inside around the BB and head-tube look clean.
Is Framesaver still effective on frames that have seen use for 30 years?
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03-11-13, 11:14 AM
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Yup I have actually gone to the trouble to treat old frames for rust then do the frame saver treatment.
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03-11-13, 11:38 AM
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Yup. Several options. If you're not doing the whole "bath" thing, you can use WD-40 first to chase out any residual moisture. When dry, then use FrameSaver.
I had one frame that had just a bit of modest rust in the downtube. I used a shotgun cleaning kit with the brass brush end to scrub it out. Then I used FrameSaver.
imho, FrameSaver is inexpensive and why would you NOT use it?
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I had one frame that had just a bit of modest rust in the downtube. I used a shotgun cleaning kit with the brass brush end to scrub it out. Then I used FrameSaver.
imho, FrameSaver is inexpensive and why would you NOT use it?
ymmv
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Yup. Several options. If you're not doing the whole "bath" thing, you can use WD-40 first to chase out any residual moisture. When dry, then use FrameSaver.
I had one frame that had just a bit of modest rust in the downtube. I used a shotgun cleaning kit with the brass brush end to scrub it out. Then I used FrameSaver.
imho, FrameSaver is inexpensive and why would you NOT use it?
ymmv
I had one frame that had just a bit of modest rust in the downtube. I used a shotgun cleaning kit with the brass brush end to scrub it out. Then I used FrameSaver.
imho, FrameSaver is inexpensive and why would you NOT use it?
ymmv
03-11-13, 01:06 PM
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I do it routinely on all my older overhauls and restorations with a cheaper oil product
they sell at Home Depot in the paint department.
Rust is an oxidative process.........sealing out the O2 slows it considerably.
It would be nice if you could get in there and sand it clean, but mostly you can't,
so this seems to be a reasonable compromise. i think the stuff I use is basically
linseed oil with some thinners and propellant in a spray can. With the little
red plastic tube on the nozzle it goes in quickly and easily.
they sell at Home Depot in the paint department.
Rust is an oxidative process.........sealing out the O2 slows it considerably.
It would be nice if you could get in there and sand it clean, but mostly you can't,
so this seems to be a reasonable compromise. i think the stuff I use is basically
linseed oil with some thinners and propellant in a spray can. With the little
red plastic tube on the nozzle it goes in quickly and easily.
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The company that makes PB Blaster has a product which I believe is close to Framesaver if not identical; it's called Corrosion Block. Comes out as a thick white liquid, dries waxy. There's something similar from LPS, LPS 3 maybe. I think either of those are cheaper than Framesaver.
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Ooo. LPS 3 is OK, imo, for some things, I have my 198 pound anvil covered with it outdoors, but I would never put that in my frame, personally.
Probably work Al, but it is nasty stuff. Messy and the smell is awful. Just 2 more cents. But then, Frame Saver doesn't smell so hot either, come to think of it. Boeshield T-9 might be the least noxious I've tried.
Probably work Al, but it is nasty stuff. Messy and the smell is awful. Just 2 more cents. But then, Frame Saver doesn't smell so hot either, come to think of it. Boeshield T-9 might be the least noxious I've tried.
03-11-13, 02:49 PM
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I've frame-savered all my bikes. It's messy, smells, and takes a lot of time. Is it worth it? Jobst Brandt would say I've wasted that time and money, and when he says something, it's usually good to listen. But then, I hung my daily commuter up on a hook before going on vacation. Normally it lives outside, uncovered. Water droplets weeped out of the vent holes on the stay, indicating water had accumulated in the BB. I pulled the BB. Guess what? Not one detectable molecule of reduced iron! And the water that weeped out was clear. I've since drilled a drain hole in the BB, but I'm also now a believer in frame-saver, or any rust preventative that can be used in a frame.
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WOW! Now that is one serious compliment! If only I could channel a few more of Harvey's talents and skills!
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A rusting frame is all that is needed to justify the purchase of something better...why stop a good thing?
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