Lightning while riding
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Look up the May day run in Fort Worth a few years back (Just one of several incidents where I am personally aware of such suits). There were a number of suits--though they were settled out of court since the organizer didn't have a leg to stand on. It is called negligence, not an act of god when a outdoor event (for which people pay a fee that they would forfeit) when the weather forecast calls for severe weather--ie the weather service has issued warnings...
Of course, I suspect you are just looking for another argument where you fail to understand the reality...
Of course, I suspect you are just looking for another argument where you fail to understand the reality...
Any links?
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Any evidence that any organized rides/no mandatory helmet "caused" injury cases have been settled before, during, or after trial in the plaintiff's favor for any amount of money?
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And what links do you expect for out of court settlements? I am only aware of these settlements because a relative works for the insurance company involved.
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If it's a light thunderstorm, I just keep riding, the odds are very low. If it was a crazy thunderstorm like they get in Florida where there are close hits every few seconds, I guess I'd probably shelter somewhere.
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P.S., I am not personally aware of the helmet related cases mentioned, but I am personally aware that insurers require the clause mentioned in order to insure the events. They also seem to require the clause when providing insurance for cycling clubs host group rides as well.
It does make sense though (without regard to whether helmets actually provide any protection) since civil cases (as would arise from such accidents) are resolved by jurors who would very likely believe that those helmets might have prevented the damage associated with the accident without regard to the accuracy of that belief.
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It does make sense though (without regard to whether helmets actually provide any protection) since civil cases (as would arise from such accidents) are resolved by jurors who would very likely believe that those helmets might have prevented the damage associated with the accident without regard to the accuracy of that belief.
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As I mentioned in my post, I have no personal knowledge of helmet related awards (or lack thereof). I just have personal knowledge that many (if not all) insurers require language stating that helmet wearing is compulsory for participation in the events in order to get insured. The rest was speculation as to why, given the personal knowledge I do have relating to other cases where insurers have made contractual requirements (the weather issue I have already described) such clauses might have come to be required.
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So far no. But then again, "contributory negligence" defenses aren't allowed in many states, so the driver's insurance company cannot raise the issue in court.
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As I mentioned in my post, I have no personal knowledge of helmet related awards (or lack thereof). I just have personal knowledge that many (if not all) insurers require language stating that helmet wearing is compulsory for participation in the events in order to get insured. The rest was speculation as to why, given the personal knowledge I do have relating to other cases where insurers have made contractual requirements (the weather issue I have already described) such clauses might have come to be required.
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Let's get back on track to the OP's question about being protected in a thunderstorm, please.
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Lightning Strikes Pickup Truck Alberta Canada WATCH VIDEO | Mediaite
I revive this only to post this remarkable video. I don't suppose getting hit while riding is too likely but it would certainly make an impact.
I revive this only to post this remarkable video. I don't suppose getting hit while riding is too likely but it would certainly make an impact.
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I think where you're riding has more to do with your chance of getting hit and killed then what you're. Here in NYC for example there are plenty of tall buildings to take the strikes then there are in say rural Ohio. I'm more concerned about the amount of rain following and limited visibility then lighting here. So I might ride through it if the rain isn't too heavy. That being said if there weren't a lot of tall buildings around me and I was one of the highest things around I probably wouldn't ride.
In all likelihood the event will be canceled if lighting is forecast due to safety and liability reasons.
I could imagine! I wonder if being on the metal bridge has any effect on your safety or not?
In all likelihood the event will be canceled if lighting is forecast due to safety and liability reasons.
I could imagine! I wonder if being on the metal bridge has any effect on your safety or not?
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Regardless of what's around you or what your frame is made of, I strongly suggest taking cover if lightening is close. One billion volts of electricity isn't going to care if you're on a carbon frame or a steel one. Can't watch it at work, but a YouTube video, supposedly of a man getting hit while riding:
Man riding bike gets struck by lightning - YouTube
Man riding bike gets struck by lightning - YouTube
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So I guess that in an electrical storm the term (Faraday) cagers becomes more appropriate.
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It is a myth that lightening always strikes the tallest things around. Lightening hits where it hits, and whatever is between it, and where it is going will get zapped. I personally know a local Forest Ranger that has been zapped twice, both times in his truck, in the woods, with trees all around. He did not get off unscathed. He sustained several burns and injuries, both times.
If you are on a cycle and see lightening, seek cover ASAP, and not under a tree......
If you are on a cycle and see lightening, seek cover ASAP, and not under a tree......
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