Shiznaz

they have a 25 cent tuition levy to support bike chain, so all the cheap asses will probably vote against it...

operator

Currently no (for funding). Which is what the levy is supposed to change. It's been operating from funds from UTERN and it's free for student use and everyone else is by donation membership. Bikechain is a part of UT.

I scrutineered the last vote count. Some jackass actually took the time to vote and then wrote an extra box on the ticket that said Spoiled and then put a checkmark next to it.

Offhoff

When I was at UofT I was hard pressed to vote Yes to any additional student levy. When your already paying 10gs out of pocket a year to go be treated like a number its hard to want to give out some more of your money especially when you work and never use anything on campus. Maybe its different for folks whose parents are picking up the tab or who have some other method of payment. But for when it was me and it was my money that I was working 40+ hours ontop of school to get I didn't care what you needed it for you I wasn't going to support it.

Shiznaz

When I was at UofT I was hard pressed to vote Yes to any additional student levy. When your already too lazy to go to class its hard to want to go and vote in student elections. Hooray I just improved your CV. Congrats person I will never meet that will probably not do anything except add it to their CV.

operator

So you can't afford $2 over a 4 year program? Wow. We're not asking for a million dollars like the "metro pass" levy is.

It's funny though because last time we were campaigning we had to fight a similar attitude on campus. Levy? Wtf? NO WAY! Some people did change their minds when we told them we only wanted 25cents per semester.

qqy

It's too bad that students really only consider their personal utility when it comes to paying levies. While some were absurd (the original plan to steal like $40 from every student for the original plan for Varsity Stadium), Bikechain is the best thing UofT's Sustainability office has done, well, ever. Now it needs to work on indoor/secure parking for bikes (aside from the Innis garage) to really encourage more students to ride. If students don't want to cough up a measly quarter - ESPECIALLY at UofT - then all hope is lost. I would imagine that it will fail because of typical lack of student participation and because students are cheap, cheap bastards.

Can I, as a recent grad, vote? I still have my student card and all and I wouldn't imagine that they'll check the status of everyone who votes.

Shiznaz

You don't give change to all the homeless people you see, even though its only a few bucks.. consider student levies to be homeless people and it makes sense. Easy to ignore...

Offhoff

If university cost as much in Ontario as it does in Quebec I'd give you 4 dollars. But that's not the case, the reality is working 40 hours a week at a high-paying union job got me through the university I attended. Its simply a matter of UofT and/or SAC making it a priority instead of shoving yet another expense onto students who are shouldering more and more financial burden for less and less academic and cultural return.

jit5

It's a shame when democracy doesn't work to your advantage.

No one asks me if I want my taxes going to welfare or the homeless. At least the U of T students are getting the option of voting down a levy that they do not want and in most cases does not benefit from.

duppy.conqueror

TRaffic Jammer

Luckily my accountant hides all the cake offshore in secure numbered accounts.

operator

If you are going to troll, at least don't be so blatant about it. Your troll score is reduced by 100 points.

cavit8

Hey you guys, I went to the trouble of ignoring listing jit the git and you keep quoting him... please stop

gokiburi

lym, did you go to nyc bicycles? apparently, they're posting ads in cl-toronto... don't think that ad will be up for long.

https://toronto.craigslist.org/bik/289490649.html
https://toronto.craigslist.org/bik/289501029.html

operator

Fixed.

And yeah, that first listing was already flagged.

zippered

bad news: i got a flat on the way home and didn't want to waste a cartridge so i hoofed it.

good news: came across a few boxes of books en route

book topics (no particular order) of what i brought home:
a play in french
"a compodium on whole foods"
comic sociology
biology
general philosophy x3
black history/power
laws of natural science
recycling handbook
technology and agriculture
info about alcohol
elements of style (language theory)
economics

and

a mother goose treasury
(un-dated with coloured prints and a pencil illustration on the back page)

wow. i'd like to meet this person!

Shiznaz

They're probably dead....

Sirrobinofcoxly

Saw '300' last night. Esthetically amazing. As far as the script, and the ridiculousness of the narrative, I wonder if the graphic novel sucked in the same way.

TRaffic Jammer

Frank Miller did it no? I doubt it sucked then, he's amazing.

iherald

I didn't love his new Dark Knight series. The first one was amazing.

2wheelsgood

i had a feeling that 300 would be all visual and no mental, that's why i'm going to watch it in imax! toray pants and neoprene socks were definitely my friend today.

Shiznaz

did you see it at the advanced screening at innis college? Because if so my friend still at U of T was meant to get me a ticket. What a jerk!

zippered

was thinking that; wouldn't be surprised

I_bRAD

jet sanchEz

Damn, all looks and no substance? I liked the graphic novel and I thought Sin City was really good, bummer.