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    Checked pedalroom and got a build but it's over my limit.
    Do you see anything on this list that can be trimmed down (a cheaper one but with the same quality)

    leader 722ts - 199.0
    leader s803 v2 - 119.0
    vp comp headset - 32.00
    sugino rd-2 - 110.0
    sugino 103mm bb - 40.00
    mks gr-9 pedals - 24.00
    kmc k710sl chain (1/8") - 16.00
    eai deluxe track cogs 28.00
    dura ace lockring - 15.00
    fyxation rodeo pursuit handlebar - 28.00
    dimension stem 100mm - 22.00
    fyxation curve saddle - 24.00
    civia micro-adjust seatpost - 24.00
    alex at400 novatec track wheelset - 155.0
    vittoria randonneur tires 28c x2 - 60.00

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    you dont need DA lockrings, and you dont need EAI cogs. you dont need a sugino branded BB.

    you need straps and clips.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikemenoob View Post
    Checked pedalroom and got a build but it's over my limit.
    Do you see anything on this list that can be trimmed down (a cheaper one but with the same quality)

    sugino rd-2 - 110.0
    sugino 103mm bb - 40.00
    I realize that you got talked out of the SRAM s300 but you should realize that it actually comes with a bottom bracket. So that would be $115 vs $150 for the RD-2 with bottom bracket. I like my S300 but I have not had experience with a wide variety of track cranks.

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    the retrogression cog and lockring will save you $17 bucks

    I was really unhappy with Rando's as a tire (though they do make a nice belt) I would go with Thickslicks or Accela's personally and that's another $10

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    why was he talked out of the s300? Perfectly good crankset.

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    Sorry I've missed this whole discussion (been slammed at the shop lately) but I'm curious to know why you're choosing the RD2 over the S300 too. They're both great but as prooftheory said, the S300 includes a BB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagrom_ View Post
    you dont need DA lockrings, and you dont need EAI cogs. you dont need a sugino branded BB.

    you need straps and clips.
    Yup. The EAI cog sticks out, Soma would be more than enough and there are cheaper cogs to be had.

    The 710SL might even be too much.

    And there's nothing wrong with Randos. Durable and dependable. Get some experience with those before you try other, more expensive tires.

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    Serfas Secas are decent, cheap tires too. Can usually get them a bit cheaper than the Rando's. I've installed & ridden s300's on a few friends' bikes and really like them. Solid, 2-piece, stiff, sealed (& easily replaceable/serviceable), can't go wrong for that price range. Aside from that, everything else has been said.

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    Use scrod's straight chrome fork, and not the leader branded one. Saves like 40 bucks. Should be about the same thing. Right?
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    I've done more ridiculous things than ride 55mi for poon.

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    bikemenoob - give me a call at the shop during business hours (listed on the site's contact page). I'll get you on the right track and save you some money.

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    What are the wait times and availability on bareknuckles? It will be a 54cm in red or black.

    Thanks.

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    We keep a few rotating sizes/colors in stock but if we need to order a frame for you from EAI, they usually only take about four days to get here.

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    Was torn as to whether this question is more appropriate here or in the Ask Scrod thread, but since it relates specifically to two products Retrogression sells I thought I'd put it here.

    Between the Nitto B260AA riser bars and the Leader riser bars, which would you recommend? Main difference (from what I see on your site) is the Nittos have more back sweep. Since I've never ridden on risers before I have no way to gauge what kind of a difference that would make.

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    I find the Nittos to be much more comfortable, as they put your hands/wrists in a much more natural position than bars with little to no sweep. My 722TS has Nittos on it now.

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    that's interesting I discovered the same thing when I sought to replace the Dimension bars on my townie...all the straighter bar made my hands numb

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    How heavy are those 1" straight blade chrome forks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagrom_ View Post
    How heavy are those 1" straight blade chrome forks?
    860g (200mm steerer)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
    860g (200mm steerer)
    hefty.

    any word on those spokes?
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    I'm hoping they'll be here tomorrow and I can get them out before we go away on Friday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
    I'm hoping they'll be here tomorrow and I can get them out before we go away on Friday.
    Yeah, I seen the post on FB which is why I asked.

    Thanks man, hope it works out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smurray View Post
    Was torn as to whether this question is more appropriate here or in the Ask Scrod thread, but since it relates specifically to two products Retrogression sells I thought I'd put it here.

    Between the Nitto B260AA riser bars and the Leader riser bars, which would you recommend? Main difference (from what I see on your site) is the Nittos have more back sweep. Since I've never ridden on risers before I have no way to gauge what kind of a difference that would make.
    I actually found this to be opposite of what others are saying. The nitto b260 were not comfortable for me. Too much sweep. I am sure its all personal taste, but put your hands out in front of you. Notice the wider they are, the more they need sweep. But if they are close together, too much sweep would put them in an awkward position. The leader risers are a bit wider (and have more rise) than the nitto b260. And 7 degrees is about perfect. 11 degrees for a shorter bar is too much (for me). The (sub)urban assault bars seem to have perfect sweep as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
    We keep a few rotating sizes/colors in stock but if we need to order a frame for you from EAI, they usually only take about four days to get here.
    Thanks.

    I would bet my paycheck the ones you get don't have brake braze ons, but just wanted to confirm. I actually found a bareknuckle on craiglists near me and it had braze ons. I thought it was fake. But some batches must have them I guess.

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/90301375@N00/456277791/

    Thanks.

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    The first run of them had braze ons. Those are long gone.

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    Hey Scrod, can you give me a ballpark figure on shipping a Pake French 75 frameset to Japan? I'm looking for an aluminum frame, and trying to see if it's cost effective to have one shipped over. Markups here are ridiculous. I'm just feeling it out at the moment, so I don't need an exact number.

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    I recently shipped two frames to Singapore via Priority Mail that went out two days apart. One took a week to get there and the other took nearly three because it got held up in customs for whatever reason. That's not very common but large international packages can be pretty unpredictable sometimes.

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