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    new build 1000 budget!

    hello to all!
    I`m fixing on buying a new single speed w/ brakes (front and rear) and I`d like to ask for some opinions on what build I should purchase.

    Intended use:
    daily commute in an extremely hilly city with heavy traffic

    Budget = 1000 ( willing to throw an extra 300 depending on advantages)

    What I`d like about the bike is an average- better than average frame (55) with a really good crank set, average wheels and average components ( seat-post, stem, handle bars etc)
    Ive been looking at several brands but i just cant understand how the geometry will impact my riding experience..and the more i look the less I can make a decision..

    if ya`ll could share some possible builds it would be awesome!!!

    thank you thankyou!!

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    surly cross check ss comes in right around $1k and it would make a fine commuter; or a surly steamroller. A little fatter tires are a plus when commuting in all kinds of weather.

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    +1 for wabi. Its hard to beat in that price range. It has good comfortable "road" geometry for every day riding (rather than trying to be some poser track bike).

    Also, you mention really good cranks and average wheels. I think you have that backwards. You aren't likely to feel a huge difference between most cranks, however you will feel a noticeable difference with above average wheels, IMO.

    Edit to add:

    The downside to the wabi classic for a dedicated single speed with front and rear brakes is the lack of rear brake cable stop braze ons. This may or may not be of concern to you. If I were building a single speed (as opposed to fixed) commuter, I would look hard at the all-city nature boy disc. This may be hard to keep under 1300 however.
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    Wabi Classic.

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    All City Big Block complete and switch out the bars to suit.

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    If you are in a very hilly place, why do you want a single speed? With hills, gearing is definitely your friend.

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    when i first started riding i thought my area was "super hilly" too, but then again as kids wed walk our bmx bikes up every hill and just bomb down them. after riding road for a few year and seeing what actual hills are like, my area aint ****.
    dudes in colorado climb 7k ft elevation like its nothing and theyre already 10k feet up in the air, all relative.

    about geometry, slacker angles and longer wheelbases make the bike more stable and less responsive

    this bike will be super comfortable, but not very fast or agile and will feel sortof freight train-y :


    this bike has a super compact geometry and steeper angles, handles super fast but wont be very comfortable for long periods in the saddle :

    lots of distance from the top of the seat to the bars can do a number on your back

    but all this is also relative since some people are a lot more flexible than others, some people prefer different riding styles and feel of bikes

    hope that helps clear some things up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mumonkan View Post
    when i first started riding i thought my area was "super hilly" too, but then again as kids wed walk our bmx bikes up every hill and just bomb down them. after riding road for a few year and seeing what actual hills are like, my area aint ****.
    dudes in colorado climb 7k ft elevation like its nothing and theyre already 10k feet up in the air, all relative.

    about geometry, slacker angles and longer wheelbases make the bike more stable and less responsive

    this bike will be super comfortable, but not very fast or agile and will feel sortof freight train-y :


    this bike has a super compact geometry and steeper angles, handles super fast but wont be very comfortable for long periods in the saddle :

    lots of distance from the top of the seat to the bars can do a number on your back

    but all this is also relative since some people are a lot more flexible than others, some people prefer different riding styles and feel of bikes

    hope that helps clear some things up
    Not quite. The only way to reach 17000 feet of elevation in Colorado (or anywhere in the U.S. other than Alaska) is in an aircraft of some sort. The highest mountain peaks in the 48 states plus Hawaii are between 14K-14,505 feet (the elevation of Mt. Whitney in the Sierra Nevada range). The highest road in the U.S. is the one to the summit of Pike's Peak, which reaches 14,115 feet. The highest paved continuous through road is Trail Ridge Road which reaches 12,183 feet at Milner Pass.

    It is possible to climb 7K feet on a bike in a one day ride in Colorado, but to do so, you are going to start at around 5100 feet in the Big Thompson River Canyon outside of Rocky Mountain National Park and ascent up Trail Ridge road. That's the ONLY 7000 foot climb on paved road within 100 miles that you can find in the U.S.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D1andonlyDman View Post
    Not quite. The only way to reach 17000 feet of elevation in Colorado (or anywhere in the U.S. other than Alaska) is in an aircraft of some sort. The highest mountain peaks in the 48 states plus Hawaii are between 14K-14,505 feet (the elevation of Mt. Whitney in the Sierra Nevada range). The highest road in the U.S. is the one to the summit of Pike's Peak, which reaches 14,115 feet. The highest paved continuous through road is Trail Ridge Road which reaches 12,183 feet at Milner Pass.

    dudes in colorado climb thousands of ft elevation like its nothing and theyre already thousands of feet up in the air, all relative.

    sound better professor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mumonkan View Post
    dudes in colorado climb thousands of ft elevation like its nothing and theyre already thousands of feet up in the air, all relative.

    sound better professor?
    If you've ever done it, you would know that the difference between starting a 7K climb at 10,000 foot base, vs at a 5000 foot base, is HUGE. I once did that 7K ride up Trail Ridge Road, with 35+ pounds of gear in my panniers. But it took 2 days (stopping overnight at Estes Park), and we were already aclimatized to 5K ft elevation. I doubt that too many people who aren't pro cyclists who are climbing specialists could bike up to a 17K elevation carrying 35 pounds of gear. 12K is vastly more doable by well conditioned athletes, which we were at the time (this was 35 years ago, when I was 20).

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    Quote Originally Posted by D1andonlyDman View Post
    It is possible to climb 7K feet on a bike in a one day ride in Colorado, but to do so, you are going to start at around 5100 feet in the Big Thompson River Canyon outside of Rocky Mountain National Park and ascent up Trail Ridge road. That's the ONLY 7000 foot climb on paved road within 100 miles that you can find in the U.S.
    Chico Wildflower Wildcat 100 - A bike ride in Chico, CA
    This is the ride I'm doing Sunday so... I guess it isn't a single hill though

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    I'm sure op is doing his urban commute at 17000 feet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D1andonlyDman View Post
    Not quite. The only way to reach 17000 feet of elevation in Colorado (or anywhere in the U.S. other than Alaska) is in an aircraft of some sort. The highest mountain peaks in the 48 states plus Hawaii are between 14K-14,505 feet (the elevation of Mt. Whitney in the Sierra Nevada range). The highest road in the U.S. is the one to the summit of Pike's Peak, which reaches 14,115 feet. The highest paved continuous through road is Trail Ridge Road which reaches 12,183 feet at Milner Pass.

    It is possible to climb 7K feet on a bike in a one day ride in Colorado, but to do so, you are going to start at around 5100 feet in the Big Thompson River Canyon outside of Rocky Mountain National Park and ascent up Trail Ridge road. That's the ONLY 7000 foot climb on paved road within 100 miles that you can find in the U.S.
    lol

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    i was just trying to say that there are people that climb a lot of elevation when they already at a high elevation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stryper View Post
    Chico Wildflower Wildcat 100 - A bike ride in Chico, CA
    This is the ride I'm doing Sunday so... I guess it isn't a single hill though
    I wasn't talking total elevation climbed, I was talking max distance from low point to high point. That Chico ride is less than half the climb of Trail Ridge Road, plus it starts near sea level, not above 5000 ft. And it peaks at just over 3200 feet, not over 12100 feet. It's an order of magnitude easier climb than Trail Ridge Road, ignoring the fact that we were carrying around 35 pounds of gear. Compare the elevation maps:

    Chico Ride:

    http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2051731/elevation_profile

    Trail Ridge Road:

    last half, from Estes Park to Grand Lake: Note: This map doesn't even include the first 2700+ feet of the Big Thompson climb in 27 miles, from Drake into Estes Park.

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c5/Trail_Ridge_Road_-_elevation_profile%2C_ft_mi.gif

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mumonkan View Post
    i was just trying to say that there are people that climb a lot of elevation when they already at a high elevation.
    BTW, they're not riding fixies, either.

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    Yup, they're riding shifties/coasties.

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    forget i ever posted anything in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mumonkan View Post
    forget i ever posted anything in this thread.
    Mumonkan, I don't think you understand. Your hyperbole was not 100% accurate.

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    @Mumonkan can you please draw on this map and show us the exact route you were describing? From there we can find it on google maps and get to the bottom of this.
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    I don't know about this Mumonkan guy
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    woah we get it you were like super hardcore and could ride 7000ft climbs with 35 lbs of extra weight. cool amazing im wicked impressed. now you just have to learn how people communicate casually without looking up the exact elevation of the tallest climb in colorado, damn.
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    so now back on topic, the kona paddy wagon, or an all city nature boy also come to mind. both seem like they'd be good for what op's going for. might have to change gearing and a couple other things but that's usual with buying a complete, i guess.
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