Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-19-05, 10:38 AM   #1
raygunner
GG + Wendy O. 4EVA
Thread Starter
 
raygunner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Blatz To The Future
Bikes:
Posts: 1,476
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
What's Going On Here? ~ The Strange World Of eBay!

Okay, the seller "Cino59" has sold the same Schwinn Madison three times from my count.

The seller is comes across like a second rate "Applecart2", and that's not saying much. Slow & somewhat rude in email responses to basic questions. And with other auctions he attemps to sell crappy conversions as "track" bikes, just like Applecart!

I'm just wondering what's up here. Is this a scam? Do the high bidder flake out?

I recall one time he pulled the auction since bids were retracted.

The first auction record is no longer available through a search on eBay.

Here's the second time:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=7145978207

The current auction:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=7150645289
__________________
raygunner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-05, 10:55 AM   #2
jaypee
succumbs to errata
 
jaypee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: WI
Bikes:
Posts: 741
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I suspect the patterns of bids, retractions, and the auctions themselves are actually a sophisticated code used by the Communists to communicate with their operatives around the world. The red menace is everywhere!!!
jaypee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-05, 11:15 AM   #3
dolface
Iguana Subsystem
 
dolface's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: san francisco
Bikes:
Posts: 4,016
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
the weird thing is that the winner of the earlier auction bought another bike from cino59 http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...serid=vernbren

it smells fishy to me
dolface is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-05, 11:18 AM   #4
turd
...leaving skid marks
 
turd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: NYC (chinatown, w.vill, morningside)
Bikes: fuji track se ('02) | independent fabrication crown jewel ('04)
Posts: 1,014
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
there have already been threads about this guy:
eBay seller: CINO59 ~ Anyone Buy From?

i'd say just throw his name in the "JUST SAY NO" category in the LBS/OBS sticky...
turd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-05, 01:53 PM   #5
HexagonSun
Happy Cycling
 
HexagonSun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: SF
Bikes: bareknuckle, bomber pro, 3Rensho SR, nagasawa special
Posts: 417
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
could have had a friend try to boost the bids for it and unintentionally win.
HexagonSun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-05, 02:00 PM   #6
dolface
Iguana Subsystem
 
dolface's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: san francisco
Bikes:
Posts: 4,016
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
i emailed him to as what was up w/ the madison, i'll post if he responds
dolface is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-05, 04:32 PM   #7
gravityhurts
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: san diego, california
Bikes: KHS Aero, GT GTB, NJS Vivalo, GT Zaskar, Kona Major One SS CX, Spot Brand SS CX, Kelly Knobby-X, Custom GT Edge 853 CX
Posts: 673
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
My experience with this particular seller was a study in schizophrenia. My initial dialogue (electronic) was a plea to this seller to omit unsubstantiated claims of me entered on an eBay auction. I had retracted a bid on his auction and in effect, was crucified for it. His remarks were paramount to delusional and unwarranted.

My first response from this seller had me scratching my head. It was clearly composed in a high degree of agitation and unreasonable anger. Okay, my "reasonable" account told me I exercised an eBay option (bid retraction) designed to protect both the seller and buyer. So I diplomatically "let him have my way." I "dummied-up" (hardly a stretch for me) and pleaded for his "forgiveness" for having committed such an intolerable act. His scolding continued, very long rants reprimanding me and utilizing "four letter words" in place of my name; at every opportunity - LOL.

Then, out of blue, he offers to sell me his Schwinn Madison (the subject of this thread). However, even that email was peppered with hostility. I graciously declined and expressed interest to do do business on a later date. He responded with "I would never sell you one of my bikes."

Having heard enough, I "innocently" made mention of my experience with another disreputable eBay seller that was currently facing fraud charges thanks in part to my close association with a local District Attorney. Yes, I lied, he is actually a buddy of mine from college and we surf together - thats all. But hey, it worked, I haven't heard from Cino59 since.
gravityhurts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-05, 05:36 PM   #8
Bikeophile
BIG RING
 
Bikeophile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Hamilton (Formerly Toronto)
Bikes:
Posts: 786
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
this is too funny. about a year or so ago i had a "run-in" with this dude. Was looking at some of his fixed gear conversions that he was selling fairly cheaply. But then noticed his $35 charge to "professional box" the bike. The way it was listed on the auction was fairly tough to read, so I emailed him asking why he was listing like that, and that the $35 charge would surprise folks.

His responses were hostile and rude!
It looks like he has still sold a lot of bikes though....i wish guys like that would get shut down.
Bikeophile is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-19-05, 06:11 PM   #9
raygunner
GG + Wendy O. 4EVA
Thread Starter
 
raygunner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Blatz To The Future
Bikes:
Posts: 1,476
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Does he just sell on eBay or does he have a shop or something like that?

And now on eBay I really like sellers who put "not track" in their auctions of conversions. At least they're trying to be honest.
__________________
raygunner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-05, 09:45 AM   #10
Ya Tu Sabes
Rebel Thousandaire
 
Ya Tu Sabes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Hartford, CT
Bikes: Public D8, Yuba Mundo (cargo), Novara Buzz (1-speed, soon to be 2-speed w/ a kickback hub), Xootr 1-speed folder
Posts: 733
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaypee
I suspect the patterns of bids, retractions, and the auctions themselves are actually a sophisticated code used by the Communists to communicate with their operatives around the world. The red menace is everywhere!!!
Thanks a lot for blowing my cover. Jerk.
Ya Tu Sabes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-05, 10:57 AM   #11
dolface
Iguana Subsystem
 
dolface's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: san francisco
Bikes:
Posts: 4,016
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
so here's what he said in response to my question about what was up with the bike, if he'd sold it before, if the buyer had flaked, etc.

"same photos used for multiple, near identical bikes - no flakes on this item as yet."
dolface is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-05, 11:33 AM   #12
raygunner
GG + Wendy O. 4EVA
Thread Starter
 
raygunner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Blatz To The Future
Bikes:
Posts: 1,476
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
So it's a different bike?!

Bullsh*t!
__________________
raygunner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-05, 11:35 AM   #13
dolface
Iguana Subsystem
 
dolface's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: san francisco
Bikes:
Posts: 4,016
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
yeah, the whole thing smells a mile high to me
dolface is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-20-05, 11:40 AM   #14
absntr
Frankly, Mr. Shankly
 
absntr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Chicago
Bikes:
Posts: 3,482
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
F all that. If he's not willing to take photos of the different bikes then what the hey. What does it take to report sellers on ebay anyway? What kind of evidence do you need?
absntr is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:35 PM.