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Old 04-20-05, 10:22 PM   #1
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skidding while seated?

I was riding with my friend Adrian the other day and he pulls this bada$$ manuever. Then Justin did it the other day... what the hell? I can only skid when i unweight my rear wheel, and then it's still hard on my arms and i have to work hard to keep the pedals from coming back up. how is this done? No it was not a skip, it was clearly a skid, i saw it AND heard it.
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Do they ride front brakes?
It's really easy to skid while seated with a front brake.
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I think I can do it just barely lifting out of the saddle. The thing is, your butt doesn't really move but you still take your weight off the saddle. The feet can also be used to kick the rear wheel up a little bit. I don't know anyone who can skid with all their weight in the saddle, that sounds crazy.
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Do they ride front brakes?
It's really easy to skid while seated with a front brake.

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i think i've been thru enought school to second the notion that skidding while still having weight on the saddle is humanly impossible.

unless of course you are dealing with someone with some serious tree truck legs... then.. maybe.. but only in rumors.
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I think I can do it just barely lifting out of the saddle. The thing is, your butt doesn't really move but you still take your weight off the saddle. The feet can also be used to kick the rear wheel up a little bit. I don't know anyone who can skid with all their weight in the saddle, that sounds crazy.
ok. maybe he lifted a little but it was really fast and he didn't assume the superman leaning forward pose. it was very suave.
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Bulhorns or drops? I've been able to skid just barely out of the saddle with bullhorns before, drops not really, but I seem to have some problems skidding in general with drops...
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Andrea (guy) from way back in the day (who was also on the forums - forgot his username) used to ride with us before he moved out to Cali for school. He could skid fully seated with ease and on a dime. He said he learnt it when he first started riding fixed on a 40x20 gear! Because the gear was so low he was able to learn it that way and when he moved to a normal gear he could do it as well. So I'm guessing it comes down to technique.

He was graceful doing that.
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Andrea (guy) from way back in the day (who was also on the forums - forgot his username) used to ride with us before he moved out to Cali for school. He could skid fully seated with ease and on a dime. He said he learnt it when he first started riding fixed on a 40x20 gear! Because the gear was so low he was able to learn it that way and when he moved to a normal gear he could do it as well. So I'm guessing it comes down to technique.

He was graceful doing that.
That wasn't cyclorat, was it? I just remember that he went out to cali, and I never met the guy.
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Yep, yep, that was him. I totally blanked on his username.
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Bulhorns or drops? I've been able to skid just barely out of the saddle with bullhorns before, drops not really, but I seem to have some problems skidding in general with drops...

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Andrea (guy) from way back in the day (who was also on the forums - forgot his username) used to ride with us before he moved out to Cali for school. He could skid fully seated with ease and on a dime. He said he learnt it when he first started riding fixed on a 40x20 gear! Because the gear was so low he was able to learn it that way and when he moved to a normal gear he could do it as well. So I'm guessing it comes down to technique.

He was graceful doing that.

i met a kid named andrea in an alley cat this past summer who was a messenger in chicago who now goes to school at uc santa cruz . same kid?
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That's him. Here's a photo from one of the very first DCC rides, he's the first one:

http://www.boochakanan.com/foto/0821.jpg
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ya, that's him, i ran into him again after the veloswap last year at some pizza joint. is that 165 on the end? back to point. can anyone tell me how to skid seated?
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Yep, 165 on the end. More photos of the crew in the DCC photos thread.
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i can easily skid while seated (or just above the saddle). of course, they're not 100 ft monster skids, but i can get about 40 ft. i could never do it with bullhorns or drops, but--and you're not going to like this--i have no problem doing it with flat/riser bars. there's something about the leverage/control of those bars that just makes it easy. i'll try to be aware of it tomorrow and come back with some more insight.

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Yeah, I met that dude at the Behind the Green Door/Messenger Appreciation day alleycat, and then again the day after riding around randomly. That guy is funny, we were chillin at Buena Vista park and some lance'd out Marina roadie rode by all slowly while on his aero-bars and Andrea screamed at the guy "You're supposed to ride fast when you're on the aero bars you *****". I about died laughing at the look on that dude's face.
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He could skid fully seated with ease and on a dime. He said he learnt it when he first started riding fixed on a 40x20 gear!

He was graceful doing that.
I was going to say it's probably their gearing but then Absntr busts out this fable of a mythical skid god named Andrea who probably skids clear over SUV's for fun. What a baller. I have trouble even comprehending the fully seated skid on a 40x20. I must have a long way yet. Somebody please tell me he can also sit-skid with the cellphone in one hand.
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Yep, 165 on the end. More photos of the crew in the DCC photos thread.
is he holding a can of mr. browns? i used to love that stuff
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On a side note - I can skid seated but barely, maybe a foot or two at most. It's tough as heck.

I can't imagine how much spin is in a 40x20 gear. But I can imagine skidding would be much easier.
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Yep - that's pretty much all you see in 165's hands that's not alcoholic. For the most part anyway, he's always got that Surly flaskful of whisky handy...
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I'd think that it had something to do with seat height, too. You'd have to lock one knee on the foward pedal, and really be pulling up on the other. I'd imagine it would be pretty hard to keep the rear wheel from fishtailing, though.
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you can get it in chicago? ive only seen it in chinatown in los angeles.. and i think in s.f... my offfice is no longer in chinatown so my intake has greatly declined
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most asian supermarkets should carry the stuff

my uncles got a bunch stocked at his convenience store
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Kind of glossed over the Mr. Browns. I need to go buy a case of that tomorrow. Very close to those Starbucks DoubleShots, but MUCH MUCH better.
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