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    Upgrade or sidegrade?

    Wow its been a bit...

    Anyway, good to be back. So I'll admit, I would still really like a Bareknuckle. The new Rush looks mighty sweet too. But until then I'm looking at the V3 Scrambler frame set. It's $100 right now. I currently have a Raleigh Rush Hour (it's been good but it's a bit chunky) I'm also kicking myself for getting rid of my 722 TS. So I'm just wandering if I'm moving laterally if I get a Scrambler frame to replace my Rush Hour frame?

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    What you're describing as a possible lateral move sounds more like a downgrade to me.

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    Also it's a 2013 rus hour, not the older nicer ones.

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    Still a downgrade. Save up for the BK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prooftheory View Post
    Still a downgrade. Save up for the BK.
    Or a Wabi Classic.
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    Ooooh, that Wabi looks nice! I like the Special even more, oversized lugged frame. Yum!

    What's the comparison of the Classic and Special to say the Rush and BK?

    Also, opinions on their geo choises?

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    The quality of the BK, (Soma) Rush and Wabis are about the same. The Rush and Wabis are made in Taiwan and the BK is made in Italy. The differences are mainly in the geometries, where the BK is very tight track, the Wabis are very slack road and the Rush is right in the middle. I own two Rushes, and really like the compromise, which gives me the best of both track and road geometry.
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    What about stiffness with the Rush for a larger rider and stiffnes of the 1" steerer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleedingapple View Post
    What about stiffness with the Rush for a larger rider and stiffnes of the 1" steerer?
    I don't think a 1" steerer is an issue on a steel frame, and the Rush seems plenty stiff to me. Although I'm small, I'm plenty powerful, so If I can't flex a frame, I doubt you will either.
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    I don't have any experience with the Rush or the BK, but I've ridden a Wabi Classic for about a month now. They have a very comfortable road geometry. With that said, I would characterize the riding position as aggressive rather than relaxed. If you plan to buy one, I would advice you to email Richard at Wabi with your measurements. He's been very helpful and super pleasant to deal with.

    I ride a 55 cm Wabi Classic and it "feels" a bit larger than some other 55 cm frames. Standover height is a little bit taller, I'm guessing it's because the BB is moved further up like on a fixed gear track bike. I have had no issues with pedal strike so far. Another good thing about the Classic is that it has double bottle mounts, clearance for 32 mm tires and fender eyelets so it's pretty versatile.

    If you're willing to spend some extra cash, you can also get a custom paint job. Since shipping to my part of the world and import tax ended up being not cheap, I might as well have splurged and gone with a custom finish Special. But what's life without a few extremely minor, nitpicky regrets?

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