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    Does Your Regular "Street" FG bike have Track Geometry?

    If yes, why?
    If no, why not?
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    Yes and no.
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    Yes, because track bike is daily FG bike.
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    Madison Yes
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    Quote Originally Posted by oouellette View Post
    Madison Yes
    Paramount No
    Which model Paramount do you have ? I have an American made Paramount P14, and it most definitely has track geometry.
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    Cannondale and GT, yes. But once I finish the MashCX, I plan to use that, which is a big no.

    Why? The GT is fun as heck, but the Mash will have brakes, a front rack, and 38mm tires. Way better for the snowbelt city streets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie View Post
    Which model Paramount do you have ? I have an American made Paramount P14, and it most definitely has track geometry.
    It's a 50th anniversary, 1988. Same seat tube length as Madison, but top top is about an inch longer. Don't have the specifics, but feels much closer to road geometry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oouellette View Post
    It's a 50th anniversary, 1988. Same seat tube length as Madison, but top top is about an inch longer. Don't have to specifics, but feels much closer to road geometry.
    You make no mention of head tube angle and fork offset (rake), which IMO are more relevsnt as to whether the geometry is more tracklike or roadlike. Personaly, my favorite fg bikes are somewhere in between, like my two Soma Rush framesets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie View Post
    You make no mention of head tube angle and fork offset (rake), which IMO are more relevsnt as to whether the geometry is more tracklike or roadlike. Personaly, my favorite fg bikes are somewhere in between, like my two Soma Rush framesets.
    Like I said, I don't have specifics, but they are two totally different bikes.

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    Yes, I think. Why? Because Tark yo!

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    Yep! Or 'trackish' I've read here.

    Why? It was the most bike I could afford at the time.

    But I've been pleasantly surprised.

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    @oouellette your Paramount certainly is track geo


    As for me, yeah my bike is track geo. Why? Because it's a fixed gear
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    70 degree head and seat tube are track, right?

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    Yes. Track geometry feels faster and more maneuverable while sacrificing some comfort. If your have a short commute in traffic and you go fast track geometry is an advantage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedapperest View Post
    @oouellette your Paramount certainly is track geo


    As for me, yeah my bike is track geo. Why? Because it's a fixed gear
    Well looky there. Certainly seems so in that picture. Trackish? Madison is much tighter.

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    Depends on the bike of the day from the stable menu

    If I'm feeling for a relaxing ride or commute, I tend to take something with that has more lax geometry and preferably townie bars.
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    Daily street FG has super slack (almost touring bike status) geometry with bullhorns (and 28cm tires, and fenders, and a rack, and dynamo lighting...). Why? I definitely go faster on the street when I'm more comfortable, and it's super comfortable, even on hard all day rides. Riding in an aggressive position on the street, especially brakeless with track drops, is pretty miserable, even on short rides... at least for me. I very rarely use the front brake on my street FG, but am extremely glad to have it.

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    No track geo on an old Atala roadie. 'Cause I like 1 1/2-3 hr. rides over roads that absolutely suck with potholes, occasional gravel and bad weather. Tough to squeeze 35c's into a track frame and there's no place to hang the fenders....both essential here, and especially now in Winter.

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    No. Function over form.
    My pavement bike is based on being comfortable during long-distance rides, so used touring geometry when I designed/brazed the frame: 72+/- HA & STA; room to fit up to 2" tire in the rear (currently running skinny 35c) w/fender; mounting points for various add-ons - racks, fenders, brakes, 3 water bottles.
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    No, my main ride is an older Shogun road bike converted to SS. Other bike is a track bike, and I don't ride it on the streets very often.
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    Yep. Shorter stem and risers help to give a more comfortable position (though I'm thinking of going to some compact shallow drops soon, I miss being able to get my head down and gun it through a headwind), but the more aggressive head angle/rake helps to swing in between traffic when I'm in a rush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oouellette View Post
    Well looky there. Certainly seems so in that picture. Trackish? Madison is much tighter.
    That Paramount is hot. Is that before or after the "PDG" days? I assume it's a Waterford-made frame?
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    Main bike is a GTB, so yes. Done centuries and plenty of climbing with it, hoping to get a good chunk of weekend bike trips to the coast with it this summer too.

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    Nope my Surly Steamroller doesn't that's the only thing I wish was different was if the BB drop wasn't 70. But then again I think I've only had 1 minor pedal scrape on a turn in my 4 years or so riding it.
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    I'm riding a modern aluminum track bike, a Trek T1. Definitely a full-fledged track bike. I bought it because I wanted something very aggressive and fast, as my road bike is steel with endurance geometry and heavy as hell. Track bike weighs less than 18lbs. It's got risers now and 28s for comfort on the road. These tires are almost trashed though so I'll probably do a 28 in the back and 25 in the front because of sketchy fork clearance.

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