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    Tensioner for horizontal dropouts

    I am building a univega super strada single speed. I took it for a quick ride tonight to get a feel for any adjustments to the cockpit that would be needed and when I arrived back at home I noticed my wheel had moved forward. I am using a quick release on the rear wheel. What would be the best way to remedy this?

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    Get an internal cam quick release that allows it to clamp the rear wheel tighter or replace the rear wheel axle with a longer solid axle and use track nuts. You cannot use a tensioner with forward facing horizontal dropouts.
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    I'd be getting rid of the quick release altogether. DEFINITELY with a fixed, but I wouldn't run a QR in the rear with a freewheel, either.

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    surly makes a chain tensioner especifically designed for forward facing horizontal drop outs
    Works great
    I have it on my crosscheck

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndjaVXC View Post
    I'd be getting rid of the quick release altogether. DEFINITELY with a fixed, but I wouldn't run a QR in the rear with a freewheel, either.
    Ahem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheldon Brown
    Track hubs generally come with solid axles and track nuts. This is because most velodromes have rules requiring this type of wheel attachment. As a result, it is widely believed that quick-release axles are not suitable for fixed-gear use. THIS IS FALSE!

    It is my belief that the velodrome rule dates back to long before the invention of the quick-release, when the choices were standard nuts or wing nuts. The protruding "wings" of wing nuts might constitute a hazard in a crash, and I believe that's why the rule was instituted. Since quick-release skewers don't have any sharp projections, that becomes a non-issue in practice. If you are going to use a quick release with a fixed gear, you should make sure to use a good quality enclosed-cam skewer.

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    You can swap out the quick release skewers with bolt on ones pretty easily:

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=sr_1_1&sr=8-1

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    Yep, I know the reasoning behind it for velodrome use. Just my preference. I just don't trust them, and it makes theft easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightfly View Post
    You can swap out the quick release skewers with bolt on ones pretty easily:

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    Those bolted skewers cannot apply anywhere near enough clamping force to secure a rear wheel in a horizontal dropout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndjaVXC View Post
    Yep, I know the reasoning behind it for velodrome use. Just my preference. I just don't trust them, and it makes theft easier.
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    Oh, I know, and I do. But anything that helps to dissuade even a few of them is good. Quick-release wheels are like blood in the water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndjaVXC View Post
    I'd be getting rid of the quick release altogether. DEFINITELY with a fixed, but I wouldn't run a QR in the rear with a freewheel, either.
    There's nothing wrong with using a quick release with horizontal dropouts with or without a fixed gear, as long as it's the traditional, internal cam design. Modern external cam quick releases have considerably less clamping force and should only be used with vertical dropouts,

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndjaVXC View Post
    Yep, I know the reasoning behind it for velodrome use. Just my preference. I just don't trust them, and it makes theft easier.
    But that has nothing to do with the OP's stated problem.

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    It does, because he said his wheel slipped forward. He asked how to remedy this. I suggested what I would do, which might be an option for him.

    But ok.

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    Yea I currently have the external cam quick release I will swing by my lbs tomorrow and pick up an internal cam skewer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surly2698 View Post
    surly makes a chain tensioner especifically designed for forward facing horizontal drop outs
    Works great
    I have it on my crosscheck
    Are you referring to the tugnut?

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    No
    Surly makes a chain tensioner called hurdy gurdy

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