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Old 07-21-16, 10:08 AM   #1
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I do understand the importance of not discussing accidents here (or on the web), but don't know if I should pursue this further, or not.

This morning I hit this hole in the road at about 21mph.

I'm not whining about the road rash, and the knee isn't pictured here, but what a mess that is! My Soma bars, Brooks and pedals are trashed. Should I go after the local gov't agencies for the damage? I can't pony up that cash right now!

Also, the fork looks OK to me, but can you see any bending?
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Old 07-21-16, 10:22 AM   #2
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From the looks of the pictures, it's cosmetic damage on all counts.

As far as compensation goes, it's going to be more trouble than it's going to be worth.
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Old 07-21-16, 10:23 AM   #3
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Had a similar thing happen to me, huge crack in the pavement, riding no handed at night....it wasn't pretty. You can try to go after them but I would imagine that you won't get that far. From what I can see, the bike is rideable, nothing but cosmetic damage. Still trying to figure out what is in the third picture.
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.... what is in the third picture.
Side-end view of clipped/strapped road pedal and it's road rash.

It seems to be all cosmetic, agreed. The bike rode home fine, albeit somewhat slower. None-the-less a "piss me off deal". Somebody else should be paying, too. 64 years old and getting more sore by the moment! OK, now that's whining.

This thread might have been a "throw a return punch" reaction. Posted within a couple of hours of the incident. Watch where you're going, dumbass!
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That's a nasty hole. I'm glad you didn't break yourself.

If you do go after them, I wish you luck. But I think it'll be a losing battle, frankly speaking.
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Watch where you're going, dumbass!
You said it.


Broke an elbow like that, but I certainly never thought to sue anyone.
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If the pot hole was poor work from a recent repair then you might have a claim. If it was normal wear and tear on an otherwise safe roadway then your case is more difficult - you have to prove that the authority responsible for maintaining the roadway knew about it and did nothing.

The first step would have been (past tense) to dial 911 and fill out an accident report. If you don't have a police report then you have nothing. It all starts there.

Something formal from a doctor explaining the extent of the injuries wouldn't hurt (pun). Save receipts for any medical expenses including gas to get to the doctor, time off from work, lost revenue from inability to work, etc. Bike repairs will take time and so you need to include bus fare to get to work while your bike is in the shop. There are likely more expenses than you think.

Estimates of damages from a bike shop would be the next thing I do. There is likely more damage to the bike than you think. I'm being serious here. The damage to the bar for example, is not just cosmetic - you can't ride with jagged metal shards rasping against your palms and gouges like that can lead the metal to crack and become a safety issue. If your helmet hit the ground (you were wearing a helmet.. right?) then you will need a new one. Etc.

That does look like a nasty hole. I wonder if someone reported it. If it were on my street then I would have reported it. I wouldn't want to hit that thing in a car, let alone a bike.

Glad you are mostly OK. That's the main thing. Hitting that hole at 21MPH must have been exciting.



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well considering how hard it is to get a claim like this from a DMV/state govt with damage done to a car, i doubt they will even take the time to process your claim once they realize its from a bicycle.

I hit an uncovered utility hole at 30+ and seperated my shoulder and corrective surgery followed. Luckily i had insurance and didnt need to seek action against the city. But i doubt i would have even won being on a pedestrian bridge.
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They don't give two craps about you or your bike. Heck I lost time and money replacing tubes on a long strip of pothole outside of my house they finally sort of fixed. I could have done a better job trying to get money but it would have been such a hassle and I would have spent more in lawyers and time and trouble then it is worth.

Luckily it looks like the bike probably is ok aside from some minor cosmetic damage which makes it look like you ride the bike, however take it to your local shop and have them assess it and if all is good, bring them some beers or cookies and if all is not good, get it repaired or replaced and do the same.
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Call the hole into Dept of Public Works, tell them you crashed and was injured and could they please fill it before someone else does the same.
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Call the hole into Dept of Public Works, tell them you crashed and was injured and could they please fill it before someone else does the same.
Rode home, bathed in peroxide, drove with bloody bandages, with photos taken on the way, to the road dept. They sent a guy right out with a front end loader of gravel, no cold patch. Another surprise for cyclists; I hope the repair doesn't prove as bad as the original problem. A road dept. without cold patch!?!

Only after that did I post this, any other way would be irresponsible, I think.
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Glad you're all right, relatively speaking. From my amateurish/laymen understanding of the law, you have no shot at a claim though.
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It's an unfortunate fact of life, sh-t happens.

I'm sure it varies by state, but know that in some (many?, most?) you can't hold the state or city responsible unless they've been notified of the hazard and failed to repair it promptly.

In any case, it might be argued that what were you doing, that caused you to fail to notice the hole.

So, treat your injuries as you prefer, and file or sand the raised burrs off the bars, then clean up the bike and put it back on the road, and ponder if you had bad luck in crashing, or good luck in escaping without serious damage.
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