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Old 07-22-16, 12:22 AM   #1
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Installing left cup on Phil Woods Bottom bracket

Hello guys,

I'm building my first bike and am having an issue.
-I installed the drive side cup on the bike frame.
- I insert the bottom bracket in the frame shell.
- I can't install the left cup because the BB is poking out too much.


How do I insert the BB in the drive side cup? What Am I supposed to do at this point?

Thanks in advance
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Old 07-22-16, 12:37 AM   #2
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shell size

Measure your BB shell to make sure it is the correct size.
Usually 68mm or 73mm.
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Old 07-22-16, 01:20 AM   #3
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With philwood bottom bracket cups, you're expected to have some overhang past the bottom bracket shell and the cups not to go flush. The additional threading helps aid centering the chainline.
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Try reading the instructions.

https://www.philwood.com/philpdfs/sq...ons_022015.pdf
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Too practical
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The cups are a press fit over the bearing too, keep in mind.
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Yes, these instructions are very useful dude

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2. To ensure a clean installation, install both bottom bracket cups into the frame dry. This allows you to check that the cups thread feely into your frame before you install them with blue thread retaining compound.
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Does anybody understand the question?
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Yeah, I understood it perfectly. Read the ****ing instructions.

Installing a Phil Wood BB is extremely easy and those instructions are written very well. You'd literally need to try really hard to screw it up and even then it would be difficult to do.
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What is your shell size? Everyone here is trying to help you, but you're not giving a lot of detail other than, "it's not working".
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Alright, so I was putting in the first cup too tightly so the second cup couldn't go in.

I put the second in. The cup doesn't have to be flush but Is it normal for a cup to have 2 threads out? Or is that too much.

About to install the crankset and do the chain line.



Scrod, ignore this thread if you have nothing to say beyond telling me to read a document that doesn't answer my question
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How do the instructions not answer your question???

Like Leuky already said, it's perfectly normal for some threads to be showing. That's precisely what allows the cartridge & spindle to be adjustable from side-to-side.

Assuming you bought a BB having the correct spindle length & type for your crankset, just center the cartridge/cups in your BB shell and your crank arm clearance should be equal on both sides.
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Instructions are for peasants! This is a Phil Wood Bottom Bracket and Scrod, you, should be right now at his house in coat and tails installing the bottom bracket on your lowly knees.

Nobody buys a Phil Wood BB to read words unless those words are in red script and say Phil.
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