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    A pick me up story for Tuesday. Cops aren't all bad.

    So I am riding to work this morning....about 8 A.M....along my normal route. Coming down Yonge Street...which those of you familiar with Toronto will know as one of the busier ones...keeping pace with the busy morning traffic. As I am not "slower traffic", I like to take up the whole curb lane. Well it seems Mr Lexus S.U.V. was in a rather big hurry to make it to the next red light as he was leaning on his horn...wanting me to move over so he could pass. I turned around to give him the old "where do you think you will go if I get out of your way, shrug"...upon which time he rolled his window down and proceeded to scream obscenities and tell me I am not permitted to ride in the middle of the lane. I tried to let him know that as I am not "slower traffic" I have every right to take up the lane. We stopped at the next light with him right behind me....yelling and revving his engine...which after 13 years as a messenger, does not faze me in the least. Light goes green and he decides to speed up and slow down right behind me to try and scare me out of his way. Just as I turn to give him the old one finger salute I hear the un-mistakeable "RRRR-RRRR" of the local constabulary. Seems Mr S.U.V. was so wrapped up in my being in his way he didnt notice the cop right behind him. Cop pulls him over.....I inform cop of the idiots bad driving...his response.." I have been behind him for several blocks...saw it all. I inquire whether I need to stick around to tell the story and the cop says to have a good day and be on my way. A quick glance at S.U.V. steaming in his car and off i went with a big a$$ grin on my face. They arent always so helpful in this neck of the woods but like anything else...there are good ones and bad ones out there.

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    Yay Toronto cops! .. And I don't know what it is but I find it specifically bad between about York Mills and the downtown core when on Yonge Street. Which is weird considering the traffic on that street moves somewhere above a crawl you'd think that "briliance" would clue in that you were probably making it faster for him.. because you had a clue as to where you were going compared to some of the morning drivers who are still waking up enroute.

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    That is so choice. Made my day.
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    That's totally awesome!!

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    i have a similar story, from last night though...
    car honks, i tell car that i can take lane, car honks, yells racist epithets out window, i shout back (shouldn't have done that, but did), car rolls up until it's touching me, i place hand on hood, passenger gets out of car, rushes at me, pulls bike out from under me, throwing bike (road bike, superlight) over 1 lane of traffic into bushes. i call 911, 4 police cruisers (park police, not dc mpd) chase driver down and catch 'em.

    unfortunately, cops get 4 different stories from me/driver/2 witnesses so it would be hard to press charges. but i have a police incident report and plan on taking driver to small claims court to replace bike with dented top tube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chimblysweep
    i have a similar story, from last night though...
    car honks, i tell car that i can take lane, car honks, yells racist epithets out window, i shout back (shouldn't have done that, but did), car rolls up until it's touching me, i place hand on hood, passenger gets out of car, rushes at me, pulls bike out from under me, throwing bike (road bike, superlight) over 1 lane of traffic into bushes. i call 911, 4 police cruisers (park police, not dc mpd) chase driver down and catch 'em.

    unfortunately, cops get 4 different stories from me/driver/2 witnesses so it would be hard to press charges. but i have a police incident report and plan on taking driver to small claims court to replace bike with dented top tube.
    Holy *****. Glad you're okay. Have to agree with you, though, yelling back was not a good call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chimblysweep
    i have a similar story, from last night though...
    car honks, i tell car that i can take lane, car honks, yells racist epithets out window, i shout back (shouldn't have done that, but did), car rolls up until it's touching me, i place hand on hood, passenger gets out of car, rushes at me, pulls bike out from under me, throwing bike (road bike, superlight) over 1 lane of traffic into bushes. i call 911, 4 police cruisers (park police, not dc mpd) chase driver down and catch 'em.

    unfortunately, cops get 4 different stories from me/driver/2 witnesses so it would be hard to press charges. but i have a police incident report and plan on taking driver to small claims court to replace bike with dented top tube.
    what part of DC were you in?
    Push me in the corner and put that pooty on me

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    Quote Originally Posted by chimblysweep
    i have a similar story, from last night though...
    car honks, i tell car that i can take lane, car honks, yells racist epithets out window, i shout back (shouldn't have done that, but did), car rolls up until it's touching me, i place hand on hood, passenger gets out of car, rushes at me, pulls bike out from under me, throwing bike (road bike, superlight) over 1 lane of traffic into bushes. i call 911, 4 police cruisers (park police, not dc mpd) chase driver down and catch 'em.

    unfortunately, cops get 4 different stories from me/driver/2 witnesses so it would be hard to press charges. but i have a police incident report and plan on taking driver to small claims court to replace bike with dented top tube.
    I hope the witnesses overheard the racial aspect of the "conversation." That generally makes it a racial hate crime. Still, he did hit you then intentionally damage your goods in an incident of road rage. I wouldn't be surprised if [they] had to serve jail time. The one thing that may save the driver jail time is that it was the passenger who damaged your bicycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisgraham81
    what part of DC were you in?
    Maine Ave SW. Yes, on my way to Haines Point. Yes, I like Haines point. It's fast, and full o' bike porn.

    I should also point out that one of my (miscalculated) shout-backs was "it's not about race."

    You know, a friend once told me everything in DC is about race. I've lived here 6 years. After last night I finally understand what he meant.

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    I yelled back at a driver once, followed him a bit, and then he decided to turn the tables. He chased me around Dupont Circle in an SUV. I had to go up a one way street and hide behind a building to lose him. Next time I'm not saying a thing.

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    Nice story Keith! I've developed a new respect for cops and traffic in Toronto since I've been biking in Paris.

    Just today I was almost creamed about 10 times trying to make it the 2 kilometers to the Hippodrome Longchamps where all the roadie clowns hang out. My mind was seriously blown when the car infront of me stopped all of a sudden to double park and then simultaneously swung open the driver side door right into traffic (and me!). I don't totally understand the traffic signals yet, but I'm thinking they are only mild suggestions at this point. On any given crosswalk there are probably more cars zipping through it when it says 'walk' than when it doesn't. Another hard thing to get used to is riding along a one way single lane street with parking on both sides where cars ride 2 abreast of eachother giving me about 2 inches clearing between me and sudden painful braking by way of parked car sideview mirror. And they freaking tear down those roads like that... I don't think taking the lane would fly because they seriously come up from behind you at full speed.

    However, once I traversed the 2km gauntlet, I was fine and the cycling was great (nice smooth oval road going around the horse racing track without too much vehicular shenanigans). I saw about 5-6 sets of campy delta brakes and all said and done a couple of Porsche 911 GT's worth of roadie gear in about 45 minutes. I was definitely the only one not in spandex. I understand now why hardly anybody bikes downtown; they don't want to die, so they all just blow their paychecks on fancy carbon rigs they ride on the weekend and would be too afraid to use any other time. Still, saw a nice collection of massive legs and some very rapid old guys and gals.

    Interesting aside; one of the natural species thriving in the Bois de Boulogne is the prostitute. I was going for a liesurely spin and man theres hundreds of them, just chilling in the forest! I could have just set my bike down and gone back with one of them old school in the bushes. I'm guessing that happens alot too because they were really trying to show themselves off as I went by.

    As for the cops (they call them 'les poulets'), they are freaking terrible here. They travel around in groups of 3 and they will ruin your day. Just today my mother was slapped with a citation (shes going to have to sit infront of a tribunal, no idea what they will do) because our big fat slow labrador was off the leash on the sidewalk. I also saw two poor old homeless guys getting thoroughly searched down on the street without provocation and being handled really rough and generally like sub-human scum. Then in the metro I saw a group of 3 cops pretty much strip searching some vaguely middle eastern lookign guy who had fallen asleep on the platform, while a group of blue blooded bourgeousie parisien bi*ches watched from 10 feet away like he was a zoo exhibit. This ALL happened in one day.

    I don't experience this kind of crap in a month in Toronto!

    Anyways, I love seeing those rotten bastards get what they deserve (in regards to your SUV monkey).
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    Quote Originally Posted by econobot
    I yelled back at a driver once, followed him a bit, and then he decided to turn the tables. He chased me around Dupont Circle in an SUV. I had to go up a one way street and hide behind a building to lose him. Next time I'm not saying a thing.
    it's hard to calculate these things.

    i admit it, i do tend to pick fights. i just don't expect them to escalate. actually, i don't intend to pick fights-- i intend to "educate." education becomes shouting too quickly these days. but i've never had anyone get out of their car before, and i find the following tactics usually tend to calm an escalating fight:
    - shout out their tag number
    - write down their tag number
    - pull out your cell phone
    - fake call 911
    and if all else fails, actually call 911. though this is only the second time in six years that i've called 911.

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    chimblysweep - i have a similar story from NYC from a couple months back. I was riding down third avenue and suddenly I hear someone jamming on their horn behind me. As there's a giant truck double-parked in the lane I'm riding in just a block ahead, I'm like, "Where the hell do you think you're going?" Anyhow, the jackass changes lanes and starts yelling at me through his window and speeds off. Of course, when I caught up to him at the red light three blocks later, I couldn't resist. I looked at him straight in the eyes and yell "What the **** are you honking at me for *******!" In retrospect, this was a terrible idea, and I'm sort of ashamed of myself for doing it, but sometimes, as I'm sure is true for many of you, I have trouble controlling my anger toward automobiles that have slighted me. Anyhow, almost immediately, this ape throws his car door open, gets out, and starts storming toward me. I guess it was my lucky day because instantaneously, a traffic cop that was at the intersection physically restrained him from getting any closer to me. It was totally insane. The cop started yelling at the guy and waved for me to go. Unfortunately, when I stopped up ahead to see what was going down, I saw my assailant get back into his car and drive off instead of being detained and forced into counseling like he should have been. I made sure to hop up onto the sidewalk until he passed. Geez. New York's Finest... at least they didn't confiscate my bike and throw me in lock up

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    Quote Originally Posted by cavernmech
    So I am riding to work this morning.......there are good ones and bad ones out there.
    great story keith... that's worth a couple of bbq pork buns i think. talk about having a serious weed up your as$...

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    Maybe some serious weed up his ass would have calmed him some...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiznaz
    Nice story Keith! I've developed a new respect for cops and traffic in Toronto since I've been biking in Paris.
    This has nothing to do with fixed gear... BUT, if you do one thing and one thing only in Paris, make sure you go to a place called Deyrolle. It is mind-blowing... it's a 100+ year old taxidermy shop on the Rue du Bac on the left bank. I'm sure I can find the address... go go google go ... 46 Rue du Bac.

    Here are a few pictures. If you can set aside any animal cruelty related qualms you may have for the length of time you're inside, you'll get to see some crazy stuff. It's a beautiful old building filled with strange, strange things.

    So yeah, Deyrolle... that and eat a lot of crepes.

    m.

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    in this area drivers love to honk their horn from behind as they fly by you or have their passenger yell at you instead of honk..if anyone has experienced this then you know that it basically makes you swerve into the lane next to you because it startles the freaking crap out of you. i almost got into a fight the other day with two bro dudes that decided to do this because i caught up with them and told them that when they do that they are basically almost killing me because i swerve..then the dudes ask me "what are you going to do about it?", wooowwww!! i didn't think people actually used that phrase! basically i just looked at him dumbfounded and flicked him off. i figured he would get out but instead flicked me off and peeled off at the light to take his right. idiots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chimblysweep
    I should also point out that one of my (miscalculated) shout-backs was "it's not about race."

    You know, a friend once told me everything in DC is about race. I've lived here 6 years. After last night I finally understand what he meant.
    Yeah, i agree. That was also one of the reasons i moved out of dc and back to baltimore.

    I used to work in Petworth and every day people would f with me. Like jump out in front of my bike and yell, or throw rocks at me. I allways got the "Get out of the road White-boy". it gets pretty old after a while
    Push me in the corner and put that pooty on me

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    C'MON! I'M RIGHT HERE! WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chimblysweep
    passenger gets out of car, rushes at me, pulls bike out from under me, throwing bike (road bike, superlight) over 1 lane of traffic into bushes.
    Son. Of. A. B1tch. Passengers are the WORST. Most of my "incidents" (and I've had nothing on this scale) have all been with the freaking passengers, who apparently have nothing better to do than bust the asses of cyclists, or throw things, or yell, and are always doing something stupid to try to impress the driver. The passengers are nearly always worse than the drivers, though in this case, it sounds like the driver was a total jagoff as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcatano
    This has nothing to do with fixed gear... BUT, if you do one thing and one thing only in Paris, make sure you go to a place called Deyrolle. It is mind-blowing... it's a 100+ year old taxidermy shop on the Rue du Bac on the left bank. I'm sure I can find the address... go go google go ... 46 Rue du Bac.

    Here are a few pictures. If you can set aside any animal cruelty related qualms you may have for the length of time you're inside, you'll get to see some crazy stuff. It's a beautiful old building filled with strange, strange things.

    So yeah, Deyrolle... that and eat a lot of crepes.

    m.
    Those pics of the taxidermy shot were weird...I mean "Doctor Lector" weird! Oh man... I honestly don't think I could even walk in there. That is the creepiest looking place I have ever seen, especially the goat dressed up in human clothing...MAN! I guess you could go and chalk it up as the weirdest place you'll ever go...but for me, those pics were plenty!! ICK!

    Keith, that is the best road rage retribution I have heard! Damn ignorant driver! You're lucky the cop was there, otherwise you might have ended up as a Lexus' hood ornament!

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    man ... i've been saving this because i knew it would come up soon ...

    so last week i was on my way downtown, in a bike lane, waiting for a red light to change so i could go straight (ATL peeps: Edgewood at Boulevard). while i'm sitting there a car pulls up behind me, in the bike lane. i shoot him an evil look but don't say anything reasoning that at least he is behind me and i don't want to start a fight. then he starts with the horn, and the yelling so here is what was said:

    him: get the f**** outta the way m****!
    me: Its a bike lane, not a turn lane.
    him: what m****?!
    me:BIKE LANE!
    him: oh yeah ... you're a ... bike lane!
    me: HAHA!

    his honking screaming bit got the attention of all the folks on the sidewalk and they laughed at him too. when the light changed, i rolled on through and he squealed his tires making that right turn he'd been so impatient for. made my morning.

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    That's great. Cops are like people. Most are ******bags, but some are okay.

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    Man, this is the most righteous thing I've heard all day. Wish I'd have seen it earlier; it made me smile big-time! It would be so sweet to be a fly on the wall when he gets to explain the citation or court appearance to his wife!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiznaz

    C'MON! I'M RIGHT HERE! WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT?
    haha, that pretty much sums it up..

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